Media's Presidential Bias and Decline - Page 3

classicman · 10-28-2008, 01:44 PM

I agree, but they still need to be able to have their say. Whether they get anything or not is up to the powers that be- not me or you. Stifling their opportunity to be heard would be even worse.
I don't want every special interest group to get whatever it is they want, no. I do however want a country where they can express their opinions. (ie. KKK) In my world they wouldn't exist, I don't think they get shit from the gov't other than the right to express their (totally fucked up) views.

Urbane Guerrilla · 10-28-2008, 09:57 PM

The one serious difference between thee and me, DanaC, is that I have no faith in socialism and never have. The rest is just education.

classicman · 10-28-2008, 10:01 PM

Socialism? Whats that?

DanaC · 10-28-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

The one serious difference between thee and me, DanaC, is that I have no faith in socialism and never have. The rest is just education.

Then I bow to your superior education.

Aliantha · 10-28-2008, 10:49 PM

Don't do that Dana. he'll start thinking he's smarter than you. lol

DanaC · 10-28-2008, 10:56 PM

But he is Ali. Clearly.

Aliantha · 10-28-2008, 11:01 PM

UG thinks he's smarter than everyone. That doesn't mean he actually is.

(don't tell UG I said that though. Let him keep his illusion for a bit longer)

DanaC · 10-28-2008, 11:06 PM

UG is clearly a high intellect and a political heavyweight.

My education is clearly not sufficient to enable me to compete with him in a debate.

tw · 10-28-2008, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

Socialism? Whats that?

$8billion to airlines. $billions to Halliburton. $25billion to GM. $85billion to AIG. Untold billions to Merrill Lynch, Bear Stearns, etc so that $6billion in bonuses could be awarded to key employees. $billions to drug companies by protecting their 40% higher drug prices. $700billion to all other favored rich companies. This is not socialism? No, this is the 'new contract with America' democracy version 2 complete with a 2% reduction in the average American's income while the rich have income increases on the order of 100 times. Sounds like the perfect society: free market tyranny. Why would anyone want income redistribution when the above government solution is even better than socialism.

Now if we could only fix Social Security by privatizing it.

Aliantha · 10-28-2008, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC

UG is clearly a high intellect and a political heavyweight.

My education is clearly not sufficient to enable me to compete with him in a debate.

That sounds so defeatist. lol I'd much prefer to see you go at it hammer and tongs.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-28-2008, 11:33 PM

Dana is too smart to waste her time on him.

Shawnee123 · 10-29-2008, 07:32 AM

Last week on This Week with George Stephano..stephana...steph...that guy, even George Will said that the "socialism" slant is stupid. He said that redistributing the money is what the government does!

Here's the quote:

"95% of what the government does is redistribute the wealth. It operates on the principal of concentrated benefits & dispersed costs. Case in point, we have sugar subsidies. costs the american people billions of dollars but they don't notice it, it is in such small increments. But the sugar growers get very rich on this. Now we have socialism for the strong, that is the well represented & organized in Washington, like sugar growers, but it is socialism none the less, and it is not new."

TheMercenary · 10-29-2008, 07:57 AM

So what? Everyone knows that, we just don't want them to take MORE.

DanaC · 10-29-2008, 07:59 AM

How bout instead of them taking more, they just take it from a different place and give it to the little guy instead of big business?

TheMercenary · 10-29-2008, 08:49 AM

If that was the plan I might agree with it, but his definition of big business is not one I subscribe to. Multi-million dollar corps, go ahead. But then don't be surprised when they pull up root and move to Dubai.

10-28-2008, 01:44 PM	#31
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I agree, but they still need to be able to have their say. Whether they get anything or not is up to the powers that be- not me or you. Stifling their opportunity to be heard would be even worse. I don't want every special interest group to get whatever it is they want, no. I do however want a country where they can express their opinions. (ie. KKK) In my world they wouldn't exist, I don't think they get shit from the gov't other than the right to express their (totally fucked up) views. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-28-2008, 09:57 PM	#32
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	The one serious difference between thee and me, DanaC, is that I have no faith in socialism and never have. The rest is just education. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

10-28-2008, 10:01 PM	#33
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Socialism? Whats that? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-28-2008, 10:49 PM	#35
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Don't do that Dana. he'll start thinking he's smarter than you. lol __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-28-2008, 11:01 PM	#37
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	UG thinks he's smarter than everyone. That doesn't mean he actually is. (don't tell UG I said that though. Let him keep his illusion for a bit longer) __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-28-2008, 10:56 PM	#36
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	But he is Ali. Clearly.

10-28-2008, 11:06 PM	#38
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	UG is clearly a high intellect and a political heavyweight. My education is clearly not sufficient to enable me to compete with him in a debate.

10-28-2008, 11:33 PM	#41
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Dana is too smart to waste her time on him. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-29-2008, 07:32 AM	#42
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Last week on This Week with George Stephano..stephana...steph...that guy, even George Will said that the "socialism" slant is stupid. He said that redistributing the money is what the government does! Here's the quote: "95% of what the government does is redistribute the wealth. It operates on the principal of concentrated benefits & dispersed costs. Case in point, we have sugar subsidies. costs the american people billions of dollars but they don't notice it, it is in such small increments. But the sugar growers get very rich on this. Now we have socialism for the strong, that is the well represented & organized in Washington, like sugar growers, but it is socialism none the less, and it is not new." __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

10-29-2008, 07:57 AM	#43
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	So what? Everyone knows that, we just don't want them to take MORE. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

10-29-2008, 07:59 AM	#44
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	How bout instead of them taking more, they just take it from a different place and give it to the little guy instead of big business?

10-29-2008, 08:49 AM	#45
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	If that was the plan I might agree with it, but his definition of big business is not one I subscribe to. Multi-million dollar corps, go ahead. But then don't be surprised when they pull up root and move to Dubai. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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