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View Poll Results: Is Ouija suitable for 11-year olds?
NO WAY, nuh-huh, absolutely NOT 11 33.33%
Not really, but..... 2 6.06%
Meh 5 15.15%
It's okay, but..... 3 9.09%
YES, it's perfect for that purpose 12 36.36%
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:47 AM   #31
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@ Shawnee ----> LOL. And totally right, I'd be very wary of letting my child hang out with anyone whose parents really and truly worry about that game. Although, it would give them some necessary experience on how to deal with that sort.
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:49 AM   #32
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I agree with you 100% Jinx. Even as a kid I thought this game was silly and totally useless as entertainment. It does however, give an excellent example of how the human mind can be tricked by group hysteria. Ah well...a part of the human condition we will NEVER escape.

OK, one more thing:

I remember playing with my friends, my skepticism dialed up along with my curiosity of "what if" and subsequent fascination. One of my friends was so obviously guiding it I was quickly bored.

It's like group hypnosis at your friendly professional organization conference: there will ALWAYS be enough people who will play along.
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:56 AM   #33
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You'd call your daughter Priscilla [snicker]
Debil done gone et your brains f'sho.
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:57 AM   #34
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LOL...no, read again, my daughter is unnamed. It's Priscilla Sneebles.



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Old 12-12-2008, 11:59 AM   #35
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Aw, shoot....
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:00 PM   #36
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In fact, I hope they have a problem, and want to talk to me about it. I'll be glad to have that discussion.

I actively reject the idea that we should tiptoe around people's stupid superstitious hogwashery. It only encourages them.

While I agree that I shouldn't have to tiptoe around other people's stupid ideas; which are stupid to me becasue I don't agree with them, but probably not stupid to other people that agree with them ; I think this is an issue of respect.

It shows respect to to ask if they have a problem with it even if you don't agree with their answer. It also shows respect to save that activity for another time if all parents aren't 100% on board. see what i did thar
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:05 PM   #37
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I voted "It's OK but..."

We have a Ouija - it's mine from my own little girl sleepover days. I let my daughter use it. Well, last summer she had this one friend sleepover, and the next day we got a call from her saying that she wasn't allowed to even *be friends* with my daughter any more, let alone come over to visit. Apparently her mother decided we were an evil influence. Which really sucks, because she was my daughter's 6th grade cheer coach and knows everybody. I expected (and I think received, to some degree, though in this town it's hard to tell) widespread snubbery.

Whatever. I was kind of mad at myself for not seeing that this might happen, but for heaven's sake, that's really overreacting.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:06 PM   #38
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While I agree that I shouldn't have to tiptoe around other people's stupid ideas; which are stupid to me becasue I don't agree with them, but probably not stupid to other people that agree with them ; I think this is an issue of respect.

It shows respect to to ask if they have a problem with it even if you don't agree with their answer. It also shows respect to save that activity for another time if all parents aren't 100% on board. see what i did thar
I'm not going to live my life questioning every insignificant decision. We all have to draw the line somewhere. I am respectful to the degree that I am able to distinguish an issue which affects the social contract that I have with other civilized peoples.

I wouldn't tell them straight up that I think their beliefs are stupid, but I sure as hell will imply that I think so. I think they should know that. It gives them the information they need for future dealings with me. Why be dishonest?

I'm not going to be disrespectful, but I'm also not going to avoid difficult subjects just because one group of people has marked them off-limits. Honesty is respectful.

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...the next day we got a call from her saying that she wasn't allowed to even *be friends* with my daughter any more...
And this is how your kids can learn that some people are stupid and crazy.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:07 PM   #39
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Good words LabRat. I wouldn't take my niece & nephew to a Psychic Fair for example, because I know it would freak my sister out.

(Okay, okay, I wouldn't take them because 1, I'm not allowed to see them unsupervised because I am a Black Sheep, 2. because I think it's hogwash and 3. because I'm too cheap to pay the entrance fee - I'd rather spend the money on a beer for me)
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:07 PM   #40
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@ Juniper: You got a letter A (of sorts) on ya now huh. THATS the scary stuff!
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:12 PM   #41
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I voted "It's OK but..."

We have a Ouija - it's mine from my own little girl sleepover days. I let my daughter use it. Well, last summer she had this one friend sleepover, and the next day we got a call from her saying that she wasn't allowed to even *be friends* with my daughter any more, let alone come over to visit. Apparently her mother decided we were an evil influence. Which really sucks, because she was my daughter's 6th grade cheer coach and knows everybody. I expected (and I think received, to some degree, though in this town it's hard to tell) widespread snubbery.

Whatever. I was kind of mad at myself for not seeing that this might happen, but for heaven's sake, that's really overreacting.
Holy crap. I expected it to cause offense not ostracism.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:14 PM   #42
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Once, my daughter had a sleep over and they played with the oija board. the very next day, one of the kids' parents came to my house and killed me. no, I lie.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:18 PM   #43
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Fuck. What happened when you played Jumanji?
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:19 PM   #44
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Once, my daughter had a sleep over and they played with the oija board. the very next day, one of the kids' parents came to my house and killed me. no, I lie.
Shoulda logged in as ghost for that one.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:20 PM   #45
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