Obama admin retains Bush position on rendition secrets - Page 3

TGRR · 02-15-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Not according to the FBI and various State and Federal LEO.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...US&PageId=1476

Since when does the FBI interpret law?

tw · 02-15-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Anyone or any organization which supports their existance in any form supports their activities by proxy.

And in that world of black and white, it also proves that the United States government was the primary supporter of the IRA.

TGRR · 02-15-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

And in that world of black and white, it also proves that the United States government was the primary supporter of the IRA.

And in fact WAS the IRA.

TheMercenary · 02-15-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR

Since when does the FBI interpret law?

They certainly enforce it.

02-15-2009, 10:41 PM

Related to rendition.

It will be interesting to see what Obama and Holder do with a new DOJ internal report that concludes that DoJ attorneys may have "deliberately slanted their legal advice to provide the White House with the conclusions it wanted to justify torture."

A Torture Report Could Spell Big Trouble For Bush Lawyers

I will be the first to criticize Obama if he lets it slide.

TheMercenary · 02-15-2009, 10:51 PM

I put money on it that nothing happens. Maybe a few uber-libs in Congress will use it to divert attention from the pork in the latest Stimulus Bill, but other than that, nada. Obama is going to protect his right to do what ever he wants and he moves power into the executive branch like nothing Bush ever did or has been seen since the days of FDR. It will just be used as a distraction.

02-15-2009, 11:01 PM

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I put money on it that nothing happens. Maybe a few uber-libs in Congress will use it to divert attention from the pork in the latest Stimulus Bill, but other than that, nada. Obama is going to protect his right to do what ever he wants and he moves power into the executive branch like nothing Bush ever did or has been seen since the days of FDR. It will just be used as a distraction.

I guess we shall see.

But if the conclusions of Bush's own DoJ -OPR report are correct, as reported, it is certainly more serious than something to divert attention. It it at the heart of Bush's torture policy.

I dont expect you to agree with that.

TheMercenary · 02-15-2009, 11:02 PM

No, I would agree with you on that point. Absolute proof will be difficult.

And on top of that every administration will get info fed to it that others think it wants to hear, regardless of what Obama or any of his lacky's tell the public.

02-15-2009, 11:03 PM

***standing back to avoid the lightening strike***

taking back the lightening strike after I saw past...."I agree with you"

The Bush DoJ has been the most political and unethical in our lifetime. The DoJ is the one department that is supposed to be above politicization.

I dont expect any future president to sink to that level.

TheMercenary · 02-16-2009, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Redux

The Bush DoJ has been the most political and unethical in our lifetime. The DoJ is the one department that is supposed to be above politicization.

Eh, I don't believe that. There have been numerous shady governments in the US before Bush came along.

02-16-2009, 08:18 AM

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Eh, I don't believe that. There have been numerous shady governments in the US before Bush came along.

See http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=535215&postcount=165

IMO, the worst politicization of the DoJ in our lifetime.

TheMercenary · 02-16-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Redux

See http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=535215&postcount=165

IMO, the worst politicization of the DoJ in our lifetime.

See

http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=535219&postcount=166

02-16-2009, 08:33 AM

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See

http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=535219&postcount=166

Repeat.....I have to laugh at the way you guys keep finding a way to excuse the actions of the Bush administration.

TheMercenary · 02-16-2009, 08:53 AM

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Repeat.....I have to laugh at the way you guys keep finding a way to excuse the actions of the Bush administration.

How is that? All I did was refer back to the thread you linked to. I have to laugh at the way you have a selective memory when it comes to corruption in Government immediately before and long before Bush.

TGRR · 02-16-2009, 06:31 PM

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They certainly enforce it.

But that's not what we're talking about, here.

The legislature makes the laws, the FBI goes out and catches the bad guys as defined by those laws, and the judiciary interprets the law as it applies to the case in question.

This is not a difficult concept.

02-15-2009, 10:51 PM	#36
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I put money on it that nothing happens. Maybe a few uber-libs in Congress will use it to divert attention from the pork in the latest Stimulus Bill, but other than that, nada. Obama is going to protect his right to do what ever he wants and he moves power into the executive branch like nothing Bush ever did or has been seen since the days of FDR. It will just be used as a distraction. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

02-15-2009, 11:02 PM	#38
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	No, I would agree with you on that point. Absolute proof will be difficult. And on top of that every administration will get info fed to it that others think it wants to hear, regardless of what Obama or any of his lacky's tell the public. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

02-15-2009, 11:03 PM	#39
Redux Guest Posts: n/a	*standing back to avoid the lightening strike* taking back the lightening strike after I saw past...."I agree with you" The Bush DoJ has been the most political and unethical in our lifetime. The DoJ is the one department that is supposed to be above politicization. I dont expect any future president to sink to that level. Last edited by Redux; 02-15-2009 at 11:13 PM.

02-15-2009, 10:41 PM	#35
Redux Guest Posts: n/a	Related to rendition. It will be interesting to see what Obama and Holder do with a new DOJ internal report that concludes that DoJ attorneys may have "deliberately slanted their legal advice to provide the White House with the conclusions it wanted to justify torture." A Torture Report Could Spell Big Trouble For Bush Lawyers I will be the first to criticize Obama if he lets it slide.

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