High School Strip Search Case goes to Supreme Court - Page 3

Aliantha · 04-22-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

So why are people required to wear clothes? What is this nothing you have to hide?

People wear clothes to keep the weather out tw. Modesty was just a side effect of that need.

classicman · 04-22-2009, 09:14 PM

Some people really need to wear MORE clothes

tw · 04-22-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

People wear clothes to keep the weather out tw. Modesty was just a side effect of that need.

I'm thinking I need some ibuprofen. Another fantasy achieved - strip search. Does modesty increase the thrill? Oh to be a student again.

But wait - I do have something to hide. And since inspired by your post, alot. Never mind.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-23-2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

If he saw the pill he should know what it was, but from what I've read he saw nothing and was working on hearsay.

I was wrong according to the article I read today. The principal actually did see the pills and knew the were ibuprofen before the hearsay that they belonged to this girl.
So he ordered the strip search actually knowing it was ibuprofen, not an illegal substance. Stone the fucker.

Trilby · 04-23-2009, 06:24 AM

let's sum up: some people are fascists and some people like to strip search OTHER people.

I belong to the latter. HOWEVER (and this is HUGE) I do NOT wish to search anyone,anytime, ever, who is not at least 35 years old. AT LEAST.

some people are crazy fuckheads. some people think the word of a co-worker or student is more believeable than the word of their OWN child. I pity, pity, pity those parents.

I know my own children. I would trust them, not the word of some whoever.

classicman · 04-23-2009, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Stone the fucker.

Yup. Right. Forking. Now.

Just thought of something - Is he still working? working there?
Damn, just damn.

Razzmatazz13 · 04-23-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I was wrong according to the article I read today. The principal actually did see the pills and knew the were ibuprofen before the hearsay that they belonged to this girl.
So he ordered the strip search actually knowing it was ibuprofen, not an illegal substance. Stone the fucker.

In school, drugs are drugs. You can't have legal or illegal drugs on your person. You get the same punishment for either. I got in trouble in elementary school once because my mom gave me one of those lollipops that help sore throats before I left. I always got to school long before class started, so I was finishing it in the hallway and a teacher told me to get rid of the candy. I told her what it was and she informed me that I needed to throw it away immediately and not bring any in ever again. Luckily for me, that teacher knew me very well...otherwise I'm sure I'd have a record for substance abuse or something at this point.

It was a common joke among us friends in the marching band that we had to hide our band bag (the backpack which holds anything and everything) because it had ibuprofen, midol, and excedrine for when we needed them.

Actually, in our school you're not allowed to carry water bottles either. It's worth detention I think? We all used to do it anyway. Supposedly kids used to put vodka in the bottles or other clear alcohols...and "teachers can't tell the difference". We decided it was worth the risk. Anyone wanted to tell me I was breaking a law, and they could test any part of me or the water bottle that they would like...they weren't going to find anything, and I was tired of passing out from heat exhaustion in class because some stupid teacher got her jollies off by refusing me a bathroom/water fountain break.

Similarly sick of going to the nurse and being told she only had baby tylenol to give me for a migrane...no thanks I'll hide some excedrine in my purse.

footfootfoot · 04-23-2009, 05:40 PM

Ahh you are all a bunch of sissies. What are you gonna say when they approve of extraordinary rendition and the five techniques? I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

Just a matter of time...

Aliantha · 04-23-2009, 07:45 PM

That's weird about the water bottles Razz although I guess they had cause. Over here all the kids are required to take water bottles to school. Mainly because of the climate and the fact that it's usually pretty warm.

Anyway, I can't imagine they'd ever ban water bottles here in schools.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-24-2009, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Razzmatazz13

In school, drugs are drugs. You can't have legal or illegal drugs on your person. You get the same punishment for either.

I realize that, but once he was sure it was ibuprofen and not acid or smack, it hardly calls for a strip search based on hearsay. There was no impetus not to wait for the police or parents to be involved. Flail 'em.

Razzmatazz13 · 04-24-2009, 10:45 AM

Oh, I entirely agree. This thread just touched a nerve, since I've not been out of high school long enough yet. I'm still bitter about having to worry whether or not I remembered to take the headache pills out of my purse from over the weekend. And don't even get me started on "weapons"...grr

Happy Monkey · 06-25-2009, 12:30 PM

Only Clarence Thomas thought strip searching a girl for ibuprofen was OK.

Unfortunately, seven justices thought this wasn't obvious, and ruled that the school administrators couldn't be sued.

tw · 06-25-2009, 06:40 PM

Amazing. Clarence Thomas did not follow Scalia's lead. He finds nothing wrong with student strip searches without due cause? Even Scalia found that unacceptable.

Happy Monkey · 06-25-2009, 06:58 PM

I don't think school administrators should be strip searching kids even with due cause. If anyone is strip searching children, it should be cops with due cause and warrants.

tw · 06-25-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

If anyone is strip searching children, it should be cops with due cause and warrants.

Remember the attitude of that time. Torture, international kidnapping, and imprisonment without judicial review were what any good patriot advocated. What's a little strip search and cavity investigation? Acceptable back then.

04-22-2009, 09:14 PM	#32
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Some people really need to wear MORE clothes __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

04-23-2009, 06:24 AM	#35
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	let's sum up: some people are fascists and some people like to strip search OTHER people. I belong to the latter. HOWEVER (and this is HUGE) I do NOT wish to search anyone,anytime, ever, who is not at least 35 years old. AT LEAST. some people are crazy fuckheads. some people think the word of a co-worker or student is more believeable than the word of their OWN child. I pity, pity, pity those parents. I know my own children. I would trust them, not the word of some whoever. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

04-23-2009, 05:40 PM	#38
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Ahh you are all a bunch of sissies. What are you gonna say when they approve of extraordinary rendition and the five techniques? I'm sure it's just a matter of time. Just a matter of time... __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

04-23-2009, 07:45 PM	#39
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	That's weird about the water bottles Razz although I guess they had cause. Over here all the kids are required to take water bottles to school. Mainly because of the climate and the fact that it's usually pretty warm. Anyway, I can't imagine they'd ever ban water bottles here in schools. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

04-24-2009, 10:45 AM	#41
Razzmatazz13 Vicariously, I live... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,221	Oh, I entirely agree. This thread just touched a nerve, since I've not been out of high school long enough yet. I'm still bitter about having to worry whether or not I remembered to take the headache pills out of my purse from over the weekend. And don't even get me started on "weapons"...grr __________________ I have some people I need to have smoted. ~ SteveDallas

06-25-2009, 12:30 PM	#42
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Only Clarence Thomas thought strip searching a girl for ibuprofen was OK. Unfortunately, seven justices thought this wasn't obvious, and ruled that the school administrators couldn't be sued. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

06-25-2009, 06:40 PM	#43
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Amazing. Clarence Thomas did not follow Scalia's lead. He finds nothing wrong with student strip searches without due cause? Even Scalia found that unacceptable.

06-25-2009, 06:58 PM	#44
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I don't think school administrators should be strip searching kids even with due cause. If anyone is strip searching children, it should be cops with due cause and warrants. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

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