Professor Gates, Harvard's Pride - Page 3

Flint · 07-27-2009, 03:09 PM

Yeah, I'm sure cops never hear people try to talk their way out of stuff with complex excuses.

Happy Monkey · 07-27-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Isn't this a bit like the people who get mad at store clerks for checking their ID when they want to make a credit card purchase? The reason the clerk is doing it isn't because they are "out to get you" or whatever the hell stupid reason.

Yes, but I think there's not much disagreement over whether Gates was being an ass; just whether he should have been arrested.

Happy Monkey · 07-27-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

That isn't what the neighbor said, who called 911: they saw a person wedging into the door.

I'm talking about the arrest, not the cops coming 'round in the first place.

TheMercenary · 07-27-2009, 07:57 PM

Wow! look at the racial bias...

classicman · 07-27-2009, 09:43 PM

Shaw123 - you Rock!

Pico and ME · 07-28-2009, 04:11 AM

Arresting the man was a mistake. I dont like the thought that I could have my liberty so easily taken away from me.

Happy Monkey · 07-28-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Did you mean "after using the key to get in the back door after the front was stuck"?

I may have been wrong about that. I don't remember now where I saw the thing about the back door.

Cloud · 07-28-2009, 10:15 AM

It's common sense and a life-lesson not to mouth off to cops! Duh.

Unless it's really essential, which I don't think this was.

Shawnee123 · 07-28-2009, 10:17 AM

Seriously. The trouble I've avoided just by being NICE?! Priceless. Yet, no cost to me.

Plus I show due respect unless I really have a reason to do otherwise.

Asshats do the opposite.

Glinda · 07-28-2009, 10:24 AM

Any of you ever had to bust into your own house? I have.

What would I have done if the cops showed up to arrest me?

First of all, I've lived here five years. People around here know me (and I'm so far off the beaten track that there are no strangers), so the odds of being reported are zero, but let's say it happens. What would I do?

My first inclination would be to assume the cop was at the wrong address (again, I'm in the woods at the end of a gravel road that's at the end of a gravel road - convoluted road schematics and damned few road signs). If he insisted that I identify myself, I'd show him my ID, then go into my office and whip out my mortgage papers.

What's so hard about that?

Oh yeah, I don't have a male ego.

Shawnee123 · 07-28-2009, 10:34 AM

I've broken into every place I've lived, at one time or another. I'm forgetful.

glatt · 07-28-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Glinda

Oh yeah, I don't have a male ego.

Happy Monkey · 07-28-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Glinda

If he insisted that I identify myself, I'd show him my ID, then go into my office and whip out my mortgage papers.

What's so hard about that?

As per the transcript linked above, Crowley called the wagon after verifying Gates' identity. He should have been gone at that point.

Glinda · 07-28-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

As per the transcript linked above, Crowley called the wagon after verifying Gates' identity.

Then Crowley's ego/attitude is at fault, here.

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

He should have been gone at that point.

Right-o. Time to give that cop the boot.

classicman · 07-28-2009, 12:08 PM

They were probably both a little wrong. Police once upon a scene need to be in charge to maintain order - period. Gates acted like an ass and got treated accordingly. Race was/is inconsequential except to those who want to see it. Watch COPS or any of those shows - People of all races act like this and get treated the same way - no matter who/what they are.

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07-28-2009, 10:15 AM	#38
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	It's common sense and a life-lesson not to mouth off to cops! Duh. Unless it's really essential, which I don't think this was. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

07-28-2009, 10:17 AM	#39
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Seriously. The trouble I've avoided just by being NICE?! Priceless. Yet, no cost to me. Plus I show due respect unless I really have a reason to do otherwise. Asshats do the opposite. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-28-2009, 04:11 AM	#36
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Arresting the man was a mistake. I dont like the thought that I could have my liberty so easily taken away from me.

07-28-2009, 10:24 AM	#40
Glinda Fucktard Resistance League Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 1.14 acres of heaven Posts: 1,512	Any of you ever had to bust into your own house? I have. What would I have done if the cops showed up to arrest me? First of all, I've lived here five years. People around here know me (and I'm so far off the beaten track that there are no strangers), so the odds of being reported are zero, but let's say it happens. What would I do? My first inclination would be to assume the cop was at the wrong address (again, I'm in the woods at the end of a gravel road that's at the end of a gravel road - convoluted road schematics and damned few road signs). If he insisted that I identify myself, I'd show him my ID, then go into my office and whip out my mortgage papers. What's so hard about that? Oh yeah, I don't have a male ego.

07-28-2009, 10:34 AM	#41
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I've broken into every place I've lived, at one time or another. I'm forgetful. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-28-2009, 12:08 PM	#45
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	They were probably both a little wrong. Police once upon a scene need to be in charge to maintain order - period. Gates acted like an ass and got treated accordingly. Race was/is inconsequential except to those who want to see it. Watch COPS or any of those shows - People of all races act like this and get treated the same way - no matter who/what they are. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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