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09-01-2009, 01:31 AM

Wow, I was shocked from that! soon, I want to be a part of them.

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DanaC · 09-01-2009, 07:21 PM

It seems a touch strange to me that in a university the football coach takes the big money. I realise it's a cultural thing...but it always did strike me as very strange. I don't get why football is so important in an academic institution. I understand why management might end up getting paid more than, say a leading academic...just...but a football coach? Nothing against football coaches, but wtf?

TheMercenary · 09-01-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

You're talking about the swimming coach, yes? Only football brings in the big bucks, so I think you'll find football coaches at all the biggies far outstrip any other coaches.

Not to mention their other perks which looking at those numbers may or may not be included. Somehow I don't think the perks that Univ presidents get are included in the gross salaries either. Cars, car allowances, houses fully paid for, etc.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-01-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

It seems a touch strange to me that in a university the football coach takes the big money. I realise it's a cultural thing...but it always did strike me as very strange. I don't get why football is so important in an academic institution. I understand why management might end up getting paid more than, say a leading academic...just...but a football coach? Nothing against football coaches, but wtf?

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Most of those have football programs that are in conferences that draw huge crowds, TV revenues, and support from wealthy alumni, that translates into millions of dollars for those schools.
They pay big bucks for coaches that will(might) win, bringing them bowl games and more $upport.

College football is big business here, Dana, probably as much, or more, money involved than the pros.

monster · 09-01-2009, 11:27 PM

it just doesn't happen in the UK. AT ALL. there used to be amateur football (soccer) and rugby) but it was phased out. NO-ONE is interested in University students and what they can do with their balls. except Loughborough (Luffbra). The ONLY UK Uni sport televised is the Oxford/Cambridge boat race. it's a different Universe.

(Dana -the Stadium of the University of Michigan would shame any in the premier league)

smoothmoniker · 09-01-2009, 11:51 PM

Merc, academia is pretty hefty in the perks department, at every level, not just at the top.

Standard perks include great health insurance, matching retirement contributions, free or subsidized housing, use of an on-campus faculty gym, free public transportation, travel reimbursement for research trips (i.e. family vacations), a 4-figure book stipend, and the biggie, free college tuition for immediate family members (at most colleges, that's transferable to other institutions as well - my kids can go for free at almost any school in the US).

Many things suck about the academic world. The job perks, however, do not.

ZenGum · 09-02-2009, 12:00 AM

And the chicks, Smoov, don't forget the chicks.

Seriously, though, outside US, only a few of those perks apply - generous superannuation, some research travel (the prof only, not the family) and if you want the gym, you pay for it. Books get counted toward pulication points which can mean promotion; we commies have socialised health and semi-socialised tertiary edumacation.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-02-2009, 12:01 AM

Here are the stadiums, and they fill them 6 or 8 times per season. Now that's just the top 17, of thousands of them. Add the TV viewing and there are millions upon millions of people watching college football.

glatt · 09-02-2009, 08:59 AM

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and the biggie, free college tuition for immediate family members (at most colleges, that's transferable to other institutions as well - my kids can go for free at almost any school in the US).

My dad was a professor and it meant the difference between me going to the college of my choice and going to the local state school.

monster · 09-02-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Here are the stadiums. and they fill them 6 or 8 times per season. Now that's just the top 17, of thousands of them. Add the TV viewing and there are millions upon millions of people watching college football.

Your link opens a reply to topic page. Either I am insane or.....

Pie · 09-02-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

Either I am insane or.....

Why is this an either/or statement?

monster · 09-02-2009, 10:02 AM

hah! now fixie linkie, I wanna see stadia

Shawnee123 · 09-02-2009, 10:04 AM

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Your link opens a reply to topic page. Either I am insane or.....

AND it logs me out!

xoxoxoBruce · 09-02-2009, 10:09 AM

fixed it, thanks.

monster · 09-02-2009, 10:29 AM

Michigan doesn't look like that any more! They're nearing the end of a HUGE building project -lots more boxes and stuff. HUGE. And yet they are still exempt from paying taxes to the city....... mutter mutter (I live maybe three miles from the stadium)

09-01-2009, 11:27 PM	#35
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	it just doesn't happen in the UK. AT ALL. there used to be amateur football (soccer) and rugby) but it was phased out. NO-ONE is interested in University students and what they can do with their balls. except Loughborough (Luffbra). The ONLY UK Uni sport televised is the Oxford/Cambridge boat race. it's a different Universe. (Dana -the Stadium of the University of Michigan would shame any in the premier league) __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-01-2009, 11:51 PM	#36
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	Merc, academia is pretty hefty in the perks department, at every level, not just at the top. Standard perks include great health insurance, matching retirement contributions, free or subsidized housing, use of an on-campus faculty gym, free public transportation, travel reimbursement for research trips (i.e. family vacations), a 4-figure book stipend, and the biggie, free college tuition for immediate family members (at most colleges, that's transferable to other institutions as well - my kids can go for free at almost any school in the US). Many things suck about the academic world. The job perks, however, do not. __________________ to live and die in LA

09-02-2009, 12:00 AM	#37
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	And the chicks, Smoov, don't forget the chicks. Seriously, though, outside US, only a few of those perks apply - generous superannuation, some research travel (the prof only, not the family) and if you want the gym, you pay for it. Books get counted toward pulication points which can mean promotion; we commies have socialised health and semi-socialised tertiary edumacation. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

09-02-2009, 12:01 AM	#38
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Here are the stadiums, and they fill them 6 or 8 times per season. Now that's just the top 17, of thousands of them. Add the TV viewing and there are millions upon millions of people watching college football. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump. Last edited by xoxoxoBruce; 09-02-2009 at 10:10 AM. Reason: fixed link

09-02-2009, 10:02 AM	#42
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	hah! now fixie linkie, I wanna see stadia __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-01-2009, 01:31 AM	#31
zaithyn091 Guest Posts: n/a	Wow, I was shocked from that! soon, I want to be a part of them. ________________

09-02-2009, 10:09 AM	#44
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	fixed it, thanks. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-02-2009, 10:29 AM	#45
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Michigan doesn't look like that any more! They're nearing the end of a HUGE building project -lots more boxes and stuff. HUGE. And yet they are still exempt from paying taxes to the city....... mutter mutter (I live maybe three miles from the stadium) __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

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