Poor, Pitiful Palin - Page 3

Spexxvet · 11-19-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I wonder how much truth there is in this?

AP Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'

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"Imagine that," the post read. "11 AP reporters dedicating time and resources to tearing up the book, instead of using the time and resources to 'fact check' what's going on with Sheik Mohammed's trial, Pelosi's health care takeover costs, Hasan's associations, etc. Amazing."

It's all about what people will watch/read, which generates income. It's a shame that people will pay more attention to showing what a train wreck Palin is. In the same way, it's a shame that her book is so popular.

Undertoad · 11-19-2009, 07:25 AM

People, please. That's merely an anchor making a mistake about B-roll footage. It happens all the time.

There are several media-watching outlets on both sides, that monitor news 24x7, and breathlessly feature every single thing that could be interpreted as bias. They have a lot of source to work with and they re-tube everything.

They know it's an anchor making a mistake about B-roll footage, too. (No serious newshound could not understand.) They love it when you get all breathless over stuff like this, because it excites them to be a part of the professional wrestling side of politics. Too bad it's all fake.

11-19-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

People, please. That's merely an anchor making a mistake about B-roll footage. It happens all the time.

There are several media-watching outlets on both sides, that monitor news 24x7, and breathlessly feature every single thing that could be interpreted as bias. They have a lot of source to work with and they re-tube everything.

They know it's an anchor making a mistake about B-roll footage, too. (No serious newshound could not understand.) They love it when you get all breathless over stuff like this, because it excites them to be a part of the professional wrestling side of politics. Too bad it's all fake.

When the anchor says "These are some of the photos coming into us..." there is an intent to misrepresent. Other networks used real time videos at a mall book store...with relatively long lines and respectable crowds, but not screaming with enthusiasm for Sarah. FOX chose to misrepresent the video.

This was much like Hannity did recently with the rallly at the Capitol opposing health care reform....using video from an old rally with the intent to demonstrate inflated numbers. Its one thing to use stock footage of the Capitol when reporting a story about the Capitol. It is another to use footage with the intent to misrepresent the news.

They all do it? You have some examples from CNN, MSNBC?

Do they all misrepresent Rs as Ds when reporting on members of Congress involved in sex scandals? Unintentional mistakes by low level staffers?

Undertoad · 11-19-2009, 08:41 AM

Yes, they all do it. It happens all the time.

If you didn't know, I'm the Cellar's appointed cable news viewer, and although I don't do it any longer (preferring internet news sites), for several years I watched a good 10 hours/day, 7 days/week of all three cable news networks.

They all make these kinds of mistakes because it is very difficult to put together this amount of live news. It's tons of airtime to fill, and not enough good people to do it properly.

The silly thing is, it's much easier to spot real bias in the news, rather than these "gotcha" mistakes, but it's harder to build a narrative around that bias. If Think Progress examined which stories Fox covered, and how they covered them, it would be far more damning for serious thinkers... but far less damning for folks with low attention spans for it, who prefer that knee-jerking OMG FOUL BLOOD SPILLED REF KNOCKED OUT style. Folks like yourself!

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Do they all misrepresent Rs as Ds when reporting on members of Congress involved in sex scandals? Unintentional mistakes by low level staffers?

They all display much, much more serious bias than merely getting the letter wrong. Getting the letter wrong is paper-thin fluff compared to what else goes on.

11-19-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

If you didn't know, I'm the Cellar's appointed cable news viewer, and although I don't do it any longer (preferring internet news sites)....

I like internet news sites as well....many are always good for a laugh.

Most recently on Newsmax:

Palin-Beck Ticket? Sarah Doesn't Rule it Out

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"I can envision a couple of different combinations, if ever I were to be in a position to really even seriously consider running for anything in the future, and I'm not there yet," Palin tells Newsmax. "But Glenn Beck I have great respect for. He's a hoot. He gets his message across in such a clever way. And he's so bold — I have to respect that. He calls it like he sees it, and he's very, very, very effective."

The Dream Team..........for Democrats!

Shawnee123 · 11-19-2009, 08:47 AM

here's a solution :p

Undertoad · 11-19-2009, 08:59 AM

Here's what the righty version of Think Progress and Media Matters would say, if you want an example of 10-second excerpting of media bias.

But it doesn't really tell you anything.

Shawnee123 · 11-19-2009, 10:39 AM

Are you having trouble keeping up with Sarah? What is it about Sarah, what makes her tick? Do you want to know all of these things, but don't think you'll be able to schedule in a reading of her book?

Worry no more! Slate has compiled an index for Going Rogue so that you may find answers to the questions you are asking.

A sampling:

prayers
__answered
boyfriend, 33
job for Todd with British Petroleum, 50
__not answered
winning debate with Joe Biden, 295
winning 2008 election, 333

pregnancy
__descriptions of
"I porked up," 50
"ready to calve," 51
"more nauseated than usual," 171
"starving for king crab and scallops," 192
feeling contractions during Texas speech, 194
__reaction to own
"Holy geez!" 171
__reaction to Bristol's
"Truthfully, I was devastated," 207
campaign's advance knowledge of, 214
campaign's botched handling of, 234

science, inadequacy of to explain existence, 47

sentence, actual
"As the soles of my shoes hit the soft ground, I pushed past the tall cottonwood trees in a euphoric cadence, and meandered through willow branches that the moose munched on," 102

upbringing, hardscrabbleness of,
sewed own clothes, 16
baked own bread, 17
stacked own firewood, 17
unheated, unfurnished family room, 26
didn't ask for money from parents, 32

terrorists
Obama palling around with, 306
regret over inability to talk more about, 307

classicman · 11-19-2009, 11:46 AM

I care as much about her as I do every other Gov. of Alaska whom I can't name and couldn't bother to waste a brain cell trying to remember.

D's keep bringing her up as a distraction and the extreme R's are trying to keep her in the media as something viable in the future.

She is a waste of space, time and money.

monster · 11-19-2009, 11:48 AM

It's not a shame at all -it's recycling through re-use. she's all done as a politician so now let's use her as a source of entertainement. When she ceases to be amusing, we can watch in happy horror as the train wrech reaches it's inevitable conclusion and then we can use her to reignite the "why do we love to build them up and then enjoy their downfall" and "it's all the fault of the media" debates.

Sheldonrs · 11-19-2009, 12:10 PM

http://wonkette.com/412297/sarah-pal...refore-iraq-is

http://wonkette.com/412299/412299

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/...aming-pile-sht

Shawnee123 · 11-19-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by monster

~snip~use her to reignite the "why do we love to build them up and then enjoy their downfall" and "it's all the fault of the media" debates.

Sarah does a bit of media blaming herself. :p

media
--getting things wrong, 203, 233, 237, 238, 276, 342, 378
--getting things right, 246
--liberalness of, 270

I may have to read this book, if I can stomach it, just for some laughs.

(I won't buy it though...strictly a library thing.)

Sheldonrs · 11-19-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

...(I won't buy it though...strictly a library thing.)

Kind of ironic that her book will be in libraries even though she's never been in one.

Spexxvet · 11-19-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

Kind of ironic that her book will be in libraries even though she's never been in one.

I'll bet she's recommended burning or banning some library books, though.

SamIam · 11-19-2009, 10:43 PM

Funny you should mention that. This is from when Palin was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska. From Wikepedia

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Wasilla librarian Mary Ellen Emmons strongly objected to remarks by Palin that Emmons characterized as being about censorship. Emmons said that Palin asked two or three times in October 1996 if she would object to books being removed from the library. Palin has said the question was "rhetorical".

11-19-2009, 08:47 AM	#6
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	here's a solution :p Attached Images __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

11-19-2009, 10:39 AM	#8
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Are you having trouble keeping up with Sarah? What is it about Sarah, what makes her tick? Do you want to know all of these things, but don't think you'll be able to schedule in a reading of her book? Worry no more! Slate has compiled an index for Going Rogue so that you may find answers to the questions you are asking. A sampling: prayers __answered boyfriend, 33 job for Todd with British Petroleum, 50 __not answered winning debate with Joe Biden, 295 winning 2008 election, 333 pregnancy __descriptions of "I porked up," 50 "ready to calve," 51 "more nauseated than usual," 171 "starving for king crab and scallops," 192 feeling contractions during Texas speech, 194 __reaction to own "Holy geez!" 171 __reaction to Bristol's "Truthfully, I was devastated," 207 campaign's advance knowledge of, 214 campaign's botched handling of, 234 science, inadequacy of to explain existence, 47 sentence, actual "As the soles of my shoes hit the soft ground, I pushed past the tall cottonwood trees in a euphoric cadence, and meandered through willow branches that the moose munched on," 102 upbringing, hardscrabbleness of, sewed own clothes, 16 baked own bread, 17 stacked own firewood, 17 unheated, unfurnished family room, 26 didn't ask for money from parents, 32 terrorists Obama palling around with, 306 regret over inability to talk more about, 307 __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

11-19-2009, 11:46 AM	#9
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I care as much about her as I do every other Gov. of Alaska whom I can't name and couldn't bother to waste a brain cell trying to remember. D's keep bringing her up as a distraction and the extreme R's are trying to keep her in the media as something viable in the future. She is a waste of space, time and money. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-19-2009, 11:48 AM	#10
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	It's not a shame at all -it's recycling through re-use. she's all done as a politician so now let's use her as a source of entertainement. When she ceases to be amusing, we can watch in happy horror as the train wrech reaches it's inevitable conclusion and then we can use her to reignite the "why do we love to build them up and then enjoy their downfall" and "it's all the fault of the media" debates. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

11-19-2009, 12:10 PM	#11
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	http://wonkette.com/412297/sarah-pal...refore-iraq-is http://wonkette.com/412299/412299 http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/...aming-pile-sht __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

11-19-2009, 07:25 AM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	People, please. That's merely an anchor making a mistake about B-roll footage. It happens all the time. There are several media-watching outlets on both sides, that monitor news 24x7, and breathlessly feature every single thing that could be interpreted as bias. They have a lot of source to work with and they re-tube everything. They know it's an anchor making a mistake about B-roll footage, too. (No serious newshound could not understand.) They love it when you get all breathless over stuff like this, because it excites them to be a part of the professional wrestling side of politics. Too bad it's all fake.

11-19-2009, 08:59 AM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Here's what the righty version of Think Progress and Media Matters would say, if you want an example of 10-second excerpting of media bias. But it doesn't really tell you anything.

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