State of the Union 2010 - Page 3

classicman · 01-31-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Redux

Whats wrong with the president proving briefings (with a little more detail) to a diverse group of interested organizations following a major policy address?

He lambastes them in public in his SOTU and then has nonpublic nontransparent meetings/video conferences with them the next day?
That seems to be hypocritical to me. I never said he shouldn't get input from them.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-31-2010, 12:37 AM

Bewaur Ye With Crosses wi Me. :p

TheMercenary · 01-31-2010, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Redux

Don't hate me or fear me because I'm a policy wonk.

"PolicyWonks are kinda hard to explain. However, you know one when you hear one. Above all else, PolicyWonks are smart…really smart. And they like to talk and listen, but mostly to debate...

PolicyWonks, then, are not always the most well-liked people. But they are respected. Sometimes even feared....

http://www.policywonk.com"

Now that is funny as shit!

What a fucking maroon...

TheMercenary · 01-31-2010, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

He lambastes them in public in his SOTU and then has nonpublic nontransparent meetings/video conferences with them the next day?
That seems to be hypocritical to me. I never said he shouldn't get input from them.

Anyone who thinks this administration is doing things in public and not behind closed doors is a fool. It wouldn't make a difference were it not for the fact that this administration and the Demoncrats promised something different. So far they have not delivered.

Happy Monkey · 01-31-2010, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

He lambastes them in public in his SOTU and then has nonpublic nontransparent meetings/video conferences with them the next day?
That seems to be hypocritical to me.

Why? Talking with people he criticises?

classicman · 01-31-2010, 10:33 AM

Read the last few pages - I think I was clear on my opinion, but if not...

Happy Monkey · 02-01-2010, 11:45 AM

I did read them. It was mostly Redux saying "did you mean this?", and you saying no. If it isn't any of Redux's interpretations, what is it that makes talking with people you criticize hypocritical?

classicman · 02-01-2010, 12:37 PM

Seemed like he was blaming them for being the problem and then going back to them the next day looking for solutions.

piercehawkeye45 · 02-01-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Seemed like he was blaming them for being the problem and then going back to them the next day looking for solutions.

How is that hypocritical? If they are problem then you go to them and find a way for them NOT to be the problem.

classicman · 02-01-2010, 01:25 PM

Guess it isn't a problem then.

02-01-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Guess it isn't a problem then.

I just volunteered to participate in conference calls with DoE and DoT this week on the 2011 WH budget proposal.

I will report back if bankers get out of line.

classicman · 02-01-2010, 02:54 PM

Who's to report back when YOU get outta line? :p

TheMercenary · 02-01-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux

I just volunteered to participate in conference calls with DoE and DoT this week on the 2011 WH budget proposal.

Oh yea. We believe that bull shit.

02-02-2010, 12:03 AM

Dont get so excited, dude.

Its really not that big of a deal...I talk with program staff people at federal agencies all the time. It only differs from the post-SOTU calls in that there are a bunch of calls on the proposed budget occurring simultaneously, which requires more than one person from those dozens of invited domestic policy organizations to be involved.

There is no dark conspiracy.....and you and I both know I can address many of those policies issues now w/o having to cut and past endless columns to explain existing federal policy/budget issues or make my point or contribute to a discussion.

Can you say the same?

Or perhaps you should stick to what you do best and what really makes others laugh (at you and not with you) and post your childish "Obama and Democrats are Nazis and Socialists" pics and edit the quotes of others when you cant offer a cogent contribution of your own...very classy.

TheMercenary · 02-02-2010, 09:42 AM

I leave you to the regurgitation of the White House and Demoncratic talking points. That does not give you credibility. Yea, Nancy Pelosi is still a Nazi and the Demoncrats are leading us down a path towards Big Government take over, spending like the whores they are, making backdoor deals without the change, transparency, or millions of jobs from a failed stimulus package they promised us.

01-31-2010, 12:37 AM	#32
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Bewaur Ye With Crosses wi Me. :p __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-31-2010, 10:33 AM	#36
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Read the last few pages - I think I was clear on my opinion, but if not... __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

02-01-2010, 11:45 AM	#37
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I did read them. It was mostly Redux saying "did you mean this?", and you saying no. If it isn't any of Redux's interpretations, what is it that makes talking with people you criticize hypocritical? __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

02-01-2010, 12:37 PM	#38
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Seemed like he was blaming them for being the problem and then going back to them the next day looking for solutions. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

02-01-2010, 01:25 PM	#40
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Guess it isn't a problem then. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

02-01-2010, 02:54 PM	#42
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Who's to report back when YOU get outta line? :p __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

02-02-2010, 12:03 AM	#44
Redux Guest Posts: n/a	Dont get so excited, dude. Its really not that big of a deal...I talk with program staff people at federal agencies all the time. It only differs from the post-SOTU calls in that there are a bunch of calls on the proposed budget occurring simultaneously, which requires more than one person from those dozens of invited domestic policy organizations to be involved. There is no dark conspiracy.....and you and I both know I can address many of those policies issues now w/o having to cut and past endless columns to explain existing federal policy/budget issues or make my point or contribute to a discussion. Can you say the same? Or perhaps you should stick to what you do best and what really makes others laugh (at you and not with you) and post your childish "Obama and Democrats are Nazis and Socialists" pics and edit the quotes of others when you cant offer a cogent contribution of your own...very classy. Last edited by Redux; 02-02-2010 at 12:32 AM.

02-02-2010, 09:42 AM	#45
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I leave you to the regurgitation of the White House and Demoncratic talking points. That does not give you credibility. Yea, Nancy Pelosi is still a Nazi and the Demoncrats are leading us down a path towards Big Government take over, spending like the whores they are, making backdoor deals without the change, transparency, or millions of jobs from a failed stimulus package they promised us. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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