My next door neighbor got shot! - Page 3

SamIam · 07-19-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

Some of you folks have lysdexia.

LOL I actually sat here for a moment and wondered what "lysdexia" is. I guess I've got it.

Pete Zicato · 07-19-2010, 05:54 PM

Dyslexics of the world, untie!

Pete Zicato · 07-19-2010, 05:56 PM

Did you hear about the dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac?

He stayed awake all night wondering if there is a dog.

Urbane Guerrilla · 07-20-2010, 03:29 AM

I dunno, Pierce: in the American gun culture, a prevalence of weapons owned and carried is without exception associated with a drop in crime, particularly violent crime, generally if perhaps a bit less strongly a drop in property crime as well. It suggests that all crime clusters around certain individuals among whom aberrant behavior abounds. Suppress these and you can start leaving doors unlocked again.

That said, I don't think America contains humans very much different from humans anyplace else. It doesn't require noteworthy extremities of responsibility to be both safe and effective with a personal weapon. The regular portion does the job very well. You don't have to be the Pope to pack heat in a socially-redeeming-value way. For instance, snuffing out gang members behaving with lethal irresponsibility. Shooting back, to fight crime, works so often that one really should think more of it would be even better, particularly in crime-rich neighborhoods.

Cicero · 07-20-2010, 12:07 PM

I think it's a great idea to curb the drift!

xoxoxoBruce · 07-20-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicero

I think it's a great idea to curb the drift!

Why do you hate America?

Welcome to the Cellar, Getgo.

Shawnee123 · 07-20-2010, 12:14 PM

Oh me too! He should try out for moderator!

Getgo · 07-20-2010, 07:35 PM

A person has to be a little mental to try and kill their parents. That's fucked. Hopefully she's all right.

Getgo · 07-20-2010, 09:28 PM

Thank you, Bruce.

SamIam · 07-21-2010, 01:39 AM

Talked to Brenda today and she is very shaken and happy to be alive. She is stunned that her own son would shoot her.

After hearing more of the story, I was surprised that she was surprised. Turns out Brenda's ex-husband was both verbally and physically abusive. He, himself, would sometimes draw a gun and threaten Brenda (he never shot her tho). This went on for 17 years, all the time junior was growing up that was the role model dear old Dad presented him with.

Then to put the icing on the cake, junior suffered a major head injury in a car wreck when he was 16. He is currently on disability because of the lasting effects of this old injury.

Brenda couldn't support him on her salary and wanted him to leave. But he was perfectly happy getting a free air conditioned apartment complete with crunchies, cable TV, internet, and computer games. No way was he gonna leave. He snapped. He'd rather shoot Mom than leave.

Brenda was in surgery for 14 hours! The bullet barely missed her spinal cord but did go through one of her lungs, her kidney, and her liver. She has a very long recovery ahead of her - both emotionally and physically.

I feel so bad that I just minded my own business when I heard the altercation. I could have saved Brenda much grief if only I'd called 911 when I first heard the fight break out. Its so hard to know what the right thing to do is sometimes.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-21-2010, 02:09 AM

Don't beat yourself up Sam, it's one of those situations where it's tough to decide. If the row wasn't serious, your neighbor might be pissed at you. Besides they probably wouldn't have got there in time anyway.

SamIam · 07-21-2010, 10:10 AM

I don't know, Bruce. In this small town the cops can arrive in as little as 5 minutes. I had a gut instinct that something was very wrong, but didn't follow it. Brenda said she screamed for help, but the walls here are not so thin that you can make out words through them. And I was trying not to be a busy body with my ear against the wall.

But I guess you're right. It doesn't help anything to blame myself at this late date.

squirell nutkin · 07-21-2010, 10:36 AM

Sam, you might have prevented Brenda getting shot by calling the cops or you might not have. Who knows, maybe the cop could have gotten shot as well? You did what you thought was best at the time, and it probably was.

Shawnee123 · 07-21-2010, 10:41 AM

What they said!

Sometimes I think our minds/bodies instinctively take the right path in those kinds of situation. Only hindsight is 20/20.

Gravdigr · 07-21-2010, 05:17 PM

The Digr household use to have neighbors (somewhat) like these. Loud, fighting, females screaming. We called the cops left and right. Nobody likes the cops at their house, and sure enough they moved pretty soon.

07-19-2010, 05:54 PM	#2
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	Dyslexics of the world, untie! __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

07-19-2010, 05:56 PM	#3
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	Did you hear about the dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac? He stayed awake all night wondering if there is a dog. __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

07-20-2010, 03:29 AM	#4
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	I dunno, Pierce: in the American gun culture, a prevalence of weapons owned and carried is without exception associated with a drop in crime, particularly violent crime, generally if perhaps a bit less strongly a drop in property crime as well. It suggests that all crime clusters around certain individuals among whom aberrant behavior abounds. Suppress these and you can start leaving doors unlocked again. That said, I don't think America contains humans very much different from humans anyplace else. It doesn't require noteworthy extremities of responsibility to be both safe and effective with a personal weapon. The regular portion does the job very well. You don't have to be the Pope to pack heat in a socially-redeeming-value way. For instance, snuffing out gang members behaving with lethal irresponsibility. Shooting back, to fight crime, works so often that one really should think more of it would be even better, particularly in crime-rich neighborhoods. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

07-20-2010, 12:07 PM	#5
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	I think it's a great idea to curb the drift! __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

07-20-2010, 12:14 PM	#7
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Oh me too! He should try out for moderator! __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-20-2010, 07:35 PM	#8
Getgo Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 94	A person has to be a little mental to try and kill their parents. That's fucked. Hopefully she's all right.

07-20-2010, 09:28 PM	#9
Getgo Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 94	Thank you, Bruce.

07-21-2010, 01:39 AM	#10
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	Up-date Talked to Brenda today and she is very shaken and happy to be alive. She is stunned that her own son would shoot her. After hearing more of the story, I was surprised that she was surprised. Turns out Brenda's ex-husband was both verbally and physically abusive. He, himself, would sometimes draw a gun and threaten Brenda (he never shot her tho). This went on for 17 years, all the time junior was growing up that was the role model dear old Dad presented him with. Then to put the icing on the cake, junior suffered a major head injury in a car wreck when he was 16. He is currently on disability because of the lasting effects of this old injury. Brenda couldn't support him on her salary and wanted him to leave. But he was perfectly happy getting a free air conditioned apartment complete with crunchies, cable TV, internet, and computer games. No way was he gonna leave. He snapped. He'd rather shoot Mom than leave. Brenda was in surgery for 14 hours! The bullet barely missed her spinal cord but did go through one of her lungs, her kidney, and her liver. She has a very long recovery ahead of her - both emotionally and physically. I feel so bad that I just minded my own business when I heard the altercation. I could have saved Brenda much grief if only I'd called 911 when I first heard the fight break out. Its so hard to know what the right thing to do is sometimes.

07-21-2010, 02:09 AM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Don't beat yourself up Sam, it's one of those situations where it's tough to decide. If the row wasn't serious, your neighbor might be pissed at you. Besides they probably wouldn't have got there in time anyway. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-21-2010, 10:10 AM	#12
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	I don't know, Bruce. In this small town the cops can arrive in as little as 5 minutes. I had a gut instinct that something was very wrong, but didn't follow it. Brenda said she screamed for help, but the walls here are not so thin that you can make out words through them. And I was trying not to be a busy body with my ear against the wall. But I guess you're right. It doesn't help anything to blame myself at this late date.

07-21-2010, 10:36 AM	#13
squirell nutkin has a second hand user title Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in a Nut House Posts: 2,017	Sam, you might have prevented Brenda getting shot by calling the cops or you might not have. Who knows, maybe the cop could have gotten shot as well? You did what you thought was best at the time, and it probably was. __________________ And now I'm finished posting.

07-21-2010, 10:41 AM	#14
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	What they said! Sometimes I think our minds/bodies instinctively take the right path in those kinds of situation. Only hindsight is 20/20. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-21-2010, 05:17 PM	#15
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	The Digr household use to have neighbors (somewhat) like these. Loud, fighting, females screaming. We called the cops left and right. Nobody likes the cops at their house, and sure enough they moved pretty soon. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

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