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Old 06-15-2011, 08:04 AM   #31
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Thank you UT. Very well put and accurate as hell.

I watched Rachael Maddow... She nearly had multiple orgasms in anticipation. As did her buddy Ed and & Larry whatshisname.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:05 AM   #32
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Palin is brilliant. She's an absolute genius that puts Howard Stern to shame. She's combined attention whoring with politics, to create a money harvesting machine that would do Silas McCormick proud.

Of course she should never hold public office.
In the beginning, I had some-kind of a respect, or or at least a neutral feeling toward her, now I have a disrespect and feelings like she ought to be ashamed of herself.

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The Palin machine operates on the energy created by the anger of the left, and earns her $12 million per year.
She's probably named a couple diversified accounts, 'self-respect' and 'public image'.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:07 AM   #33
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Thank you UT. Very well put and accurate as hell.

I watched Rachael Maddow... She nearly had multiple orgasms in anticipation. As did her buddy Ed and & Larry whatshisname.
So you dont think she bears responsibility as a result of her claim of executive privilege or other stalling tactics?

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Old 06-15-2011, 08:39 AM   #34
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I didn't say that at all. Please don't do that - its really beneath you. srsly.

Personally, I think Palin is an idiot, a sideshow and nothing I would want near the office of the president. That was not my point, nor the point UT was making.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:42 AM   #35
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My point is that there would not have been a media frenzy last week if she had complied and not delayed the release of the e-mails for more than two years.

And IMO, the media frenzy would have occurred in 08 and been no different than Clinton faced in 92 or that Obama would have faced if his e-mails were subject to a public records act.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:48 AM   #36
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F&B is right. Belittling 'liberal' media for their excitement is disingenuous.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:20 AM   #37
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there would not have been a media frenzy last week if she had complied and not delayed the release of the e-mails for more than two years.
No. If that were the case, it would be quiet news, and not followed by the breathless "and we're gonna let you help us read every last one of them!" But don't listen to me, listen to Jon Stewart on the matter:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mo...-13-2011/pmail
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Old 06-15-2011, 10:02 AM   #38
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Looking in from the outside, I'd say you're both right. Palin absolutely created the context for the feeding frenzy by her own actions and words. But that doesn't mean it isn't a feeding frenzy, and it doesn't mean the press aren't desperately trying to hype things up and search for the most salacious or saleable details.

But that is less to do with her being on the right, and the media having a 'liberal bias' and is far more to do with her status as the celebrity politician and whackjob people most love to hate.
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Old 06-15-2011, 12:24 PM   #39
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F&B is right. Belittling 'liberal' media for their excitement is disingenuous.
BS.

She's an attention-whore and the media idiots feed right into her "game."
If they stopped that attitude and realized that 70-80% of the people don't care about her, she would go away much faster. (hopefully and thankfully)
Unfortunately, by paying attention to her every word and covering her self centered & meaningless bus tour, they give her far more credibility - which she does NOT deserve. She deserves ZERO press.
Simply put, She is not a viable candidate, nor has she even even committed to running. Why even bother asking her? They continually portray her as the spokesperson for the right, which she isn't.
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Old 06-15-2011, 12:31 PM   #40
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I think the frenzy would have been the same with any national political figure (and she is one, with millions of followers, whether she runs for office or not) who smugly has boycotted the media for two years, limiting her political pronouncements on policy or attacks of others to her Facebook, her Fox News show, Sean Hannity's show and a very select few others.
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Old 06-15-2011, 12:37 PM   #41
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That's fine - although I disagree.
Now when Weiner's come out ... or Ahhhhnolds...
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:14 PM   #42
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I think the issue was more one of access to public records, valid for any candidate for President or Vice President and based in large part on her initial resistance to comply with the law.

Where Mercenary's initial criticism was wrong is in the fact that Obama's e-mails as state senator or even US senator dont carry the same access as public records.
Double standards abound. It is not only Obama's emails that should be examined it is his actions surrounding his thesis and tenure at Harvard Law Review. All this came out during the time he was a valid candidate for President. And people were prevented from seeing the information. There are many issues about his past associations with radical elements of the Left that have been called into question, all pushed aside on done with minimal activity by the press. Now we have a gore fest by the Liberal Media and what did they find? Nada.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:15 PM   #43
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BS.

She's an attention-whore and the media idiots feed right into her "game."
If they stopped that attitude and realized that 70-80% of the people don't care about her, she would go away much faster. (hopefully and thankfully)
Unfortunately, by paying attention to her every word and covering her self centered & meaningless bus tour, they give her far more credibility - which she does NOT deserve. She deserves ZERO press.
Simply put, She is not a viable candidate, nor has she even even committed to running. Why even bother asking her? They continually portray her as the spokesperson for the right, which she isn't.
Because she sells newspapers, magazines, and television advertising time.

She is a revenue generator.

I know it is sometimes hard to remember that "news" media are only called that.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:17 PM   #44
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That is all any media organization has become anymore. The internet is destroying most of their credibility and competing for their dollars.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:24 PM   #45
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I hear ya Foot3 ... point taken.
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