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jimhelm · 07-22-2011, 01:20 PM

I am on my way to go pour concrete footers. My cars thermometer says it is 104 degrees out. This is really gonna suck.

Griff · 07-22-2011, 02:51 PM

I don't even want to sit on my deck in this weather. It'd probably just fall down or explode into flames anyway since we don't have housing inspectors here.

jimhelm · 07-23-2011, 08:00 AM

so, yeah... moving wheelbarrows of concrete 30 yards from the driveway to the back of the house in 103 (actual) degree weather is a LOT of fun.

I don't know how I manage to do it, but I always seem to end up doing outside chores on the hottest days of the summer.

anyway.... I survived.

Here's the footers:

HungLikeJesus · 07-23-2011, 08:40 AM

What did you use to get all the tops at the same height?

Trilby · 07-23-2011, 09:00 AM

Be honest, jim.

There are hobos buried under there.

Pete Zicato · 07-23-2011, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

What did you use to get all the tops at the same height?

Don't know how Jim did it, but a water level will do the job.

Spexxvet · 07-23-2011, 10:54 AM

Could also use a surveyor's transit.

zippyt · 07-23-2011, 11:10 AM

Oh come on ,
String line with a level

jimhelm · 07-23-2011, 11:52 AM

The tops are not at the same height. the mook that was hired to do the holes just bulled through it. truck is here, gotta pour it...

its ok... i'll make the legs the proper length to level the deck. and i'll hide those tubes in boxes.

HungLikeJesus · 07-23-2011, 12:57 PM

That's what I thought, based on the picture.

jimhelm · 07-24-2011, 12:56 AM

The holes, the empty holes, the filled holes...

jimhelm · 07-24-2011, 01:20 AM

then you jam the form down into the concrete? and then top them off.

That's what the mason did.... In retrospect, I'm thinking that maybe it would have been better to put the tubes in cut to be flush with ground level.... back-fill with dirt, fill to level with the ground. I'm kind of bummed that I didn't slow him down and tell him what we were doing. I was warned that he was a bit of a blunderer, but this seemed such a basic job, that we figured he couldn't fuck it up. Plus, it literally WAS so fucking hot that all I could really spend my attention on was laying out the location of the bolts I'm putting in the exact spot...which i have no confidence of at this point... and how could there possibly have been this much sweat in my body? Forreals though... I really wish it had been nicer and less rushed by the huge ass concrete truck idling in the driveway while we carted loads back, and how fast it set up. It will serve, but elegant it is not. I'm going to have to cover that shit up.

Anyway... I'm reserving judgement until I can see what I've got after the deck is up.

jimhelm · 07-24-2011, 01:22 AM

and enough about the footers....

jimhelm · 08-03-2011, 06:53 PM

We ended up having to chop one of those pillars off, because it was just too far out of line.

Here's the header.... It's the suckiest part of the job, because someone has to go into the crawl space and tighten the bolts up. That someone was not me.

jimhelm · 08-03-2011, 06:56 PM

We're using Cedar on the outside(visible) portions, but treated innards to save $$.

Here, we have to span 18', so I used two boards of each kind, and offset the joint. The cedar in back is a 2x12, the treated wood is a 2x10. I counter sunk the bolt heads so that they don't interfere with the joists that will hang inside there.

07-22-2011, 01:20 PM	#31
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	I am on my way to go pour concrete footers. My cars thermometer says it is 104 degrees out. This is really gonna suck. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

07-22-2011, 02:51 PM	#32
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I don't even want to sit on my deck in this weather. It'd probably just fall down or explode into flames anyway since we don't have housing inspectors here. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

07-23-2011, 08:00 AM	#33
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	so, yeah... moving wheelbarrows of concrete 30 yards from the driveway to the back of the house in 103 (actual) degree weather is a LOT of fun. I don't know how I manage to do it, but I always seem to end up doing outside chores on the hottest days of the summer. anyway.... I survived. Here's the footers: Attached Images __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

07-23-2011, 08:40 AM	#34
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	What did you use to get all the tops at the same height? __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

07-23-2011, 09:00 AM	#35
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Be honest, jim. There are hobos buried under there. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

07-23-2011, 10:54 AM	#37
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Could also use a surveyor's transit. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

07-23-2011, 11:10 AM	#38
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Oh come on , String line with a level __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

07-23-2011, 11:52 AM	#39
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	The tops are not at the same height. the mook that was hired to do the holes just bulled through it. truck is here, gotta pour it... its ok... i'll make the legs the proper length to level the deck. and i'll hide those tubes in boxes. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

07-23-2011, 12:57 PM	#40
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	That's what I thought, based on the picture. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

07-24-2011, 12:56 AM	#41
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	The holes, the empty holes, the filled holes... Attached Images __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

07-24-2011, 01:20 AM	#42
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	then you jam the form down into the concrete? and then top them off. That's what the mason did.... In retrospect, I'm thinking that maybe it would have been better to put the tubes in cut to be flush with ground level.... back-fill with dirt, fill to level with the ground. I'm kind of bummed that I didn't slow him down and tell him what we were doing. I was warned that he was a bit of a blunderer, but this seemed such a basic job, that we figured he couldn't fuck it up. Plus, it literally WAS so fucking hot that all I could really spend my attention on was laying out the location of the bolts I'm putting in the exact spot...which i have no confidence of at this point... and how could there possibly have been this much sweat in my body? Forreals though... I really wish it had been nicer and less rushed by the huge ass concrete truck idling in the driveway while we carted loads back, and how fast it set up. It will serve, but elegant it is not. I'm going to have to cover that shit up. Anyway... I'm reserving judgement until I can see what I've got after the deck is up. Attached Images __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

07-24-2011, 01:22 AM	#43
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	and enough about the footers.... Attached Images __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

08-03-2011, 06:53 PM	#44
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	We ended up having to chop one of those pillars off, because it was just too far out of line. Here's the header.... It's the suckiest part of the job, because someone has to go into the crawl space and tighten the bolts up. That someone was not me. Attached Images __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

08-03-2011, 06:56 PM	#45
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	We're using Cedar on the outside(visible) portions, but treated innards to save $$. Here, we have to span 18', so I used two boards of each kind, and offset the joint. The cedar in back is a 2x12, the treated wood is a 2x10. I counter sunk the bolt heads so that they don't interfere with the joists that will hang inside there. Attached Images __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

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