Mozilla Question

[juju]

I always middle-click on a link to open it in a new tab. It's much faster than navigating that silly little menu.

For the newbies, you can turn that option on in your preferences under "tabbed browsing".

[juju]

BTW, UT, that Amazon app really impressed me. Now I finally understand what all the "Mozilla isn't just a browser" hype is about.

[Tobiasly]

Originally posted by juju
I always middle-click on a link to open it in a new tab. It's much faster than navigating that silly little menu.

Good point, juju, I was gonna mention that and forgot.

For the truly eccentric, Tabbrowser Extensions is a requirement. I don't remember what I did before I could reorder tabs (or windows, in those black IE days). And the it fixes one of my biggest gripes with Mozilla: when you open a new tab, the history of the previous tab doesn't come along with it. "Duplicate tab" fixes this, and is conveniently accessible with a double-click by default.

[Elspode]

Originally posted by Tobiasly
I'm not sure why your mouse's universal-scrolling shortcut isn't working. As far as mouse gestures, did you restart Firebird after installing it? Which gestures are you trying to get to work?

Actually, only parts of the trackball work, and those are the ones directly analogous to the the normal parts of a mouse...left button, right button, click both together to simulate a third button, and the motion, of course. But I can't make it scroll without grabbing the window scroll bar. This alone is going to be enough to disallow the program, damn it. I cannot live without a scrollwheel function.

I only experimented with the "back' gesture at first, but then I tried a few others. Nuthin...and I did restart after install.

That's exceptionally weird, 'cause scrolling works on every platform with every mouse I've ever tried. Perhaps you need to reinstall you Logitech software? You did say you had a Logitech, right?

[Torrere]

Alas, it does look like Mouse Gestures aren't working for Firebird anymore.

The tabbrowser extensions preserves the history when you open new tabs! Nice! I'm going to have to get that, then.

Elspode, you don't /have/ to re-download Flash. You can delete the null library, and it won't prompt you to install Flash again. Or, you can get the flash click-to-view extension which disables replaces flash with a button, and only if you click the button does it play the flash file.

[Beestie]

I love Opera and I'm using it right now.

Opera won't work for everything (But very rarely does it display a web page incorrectly) but its soooo good I can put up with a limitation or two. I LOVE the "delete private data" menu item which deletes about 20 things such as cache, history, passwords, etc. with a single click - its very customizable.

As dave points out, Opera is not good for CSS (used a lot in online shopping sites) but that's fine - I use IE for online shopping, anyway.

Give it a whirl. I have not had much luch with Mozilla and I have given it a fair chance.

[Tobiasly]

Are you guys serious? CSS support is really that broken in Opera? And people <b>pay</b> for it?! WTF?

[Tobiasly]

Originally posted by Torrere
Alas, it does look like Mouse Gestures aren't working for Firebird anymore.

I have Mouse Gestures installed with 0.6.1. I only use the "rocker" gestures, not the regular ones, but that part at least works fine for me.

Again, Opera's support of CSS basically boils down to "What's CSS?"

[Undertoad]

Well here's what they claim to support:

http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/css/

[Beestie]

Are you guys serious? CSS support is really that broken in Opera? And people pay for it?! WTF?

Pay??? As in money??? For a browser????

Guffaw!! Stop - yer killin' me!!!

[Tobiasly]

Originally posted by Undertoad
Well here's what they claim to support:

http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/css/

I don't use Opera, so I can't say for sure, but "supporting" CSS, and implementing it correctly, could be two different things.

[BrianR]

so, what *IS* CSS?

I'm using Opera now and my only complaint is it doesn't recognize some weird URL type. MMV or something like that

is this something I actually need?

or might this be something that is fixed in the next version or even the registered version?
I'm using the free version now, BTW Tob.
But I do intend to (one of these days) register the shareware programs I use most.

Brian

[Tobiasly]

Originally posted by BrianR
so, what *IS* CSS?

Cascading Style Sheets.

This goes along somewhat with UT's discussion of XML/RSS in the other thread. People recently realized it would be a good idea to separate a website's content from its layout and formatting.

So, instead of specifying font styles and whatnot within the web page itself, that info is contained in a separate CSS file. It is much easier to design and change web pages this way, and it gives much greater control of how the page looks.

It also makes it much easier to target different types of devices. For example, CSS makes it very easy to specify a certain layout for screen display, and a simpler, stripped-down version for printing. It makes those "printer-friendly version" links obsolete -- the browser simply uses the correct style info for the proper use.

Since it allows much more fine-grained control, it's also more difficult to implement in the browsers. So some browsers handle it better than others. It doesn't take a web designer long to realize that IE is broken in many ways when it comes to rendering CSS correctly. Mozilla/Firebird get it right much more often.

I've never actually used Opera, so I can't speak to how well it does or doesn't handle it.