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Old 04-06-2004, 06:24 PM   #31
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I agree with LJ. I've seen it more than once. I've even had a woman tell me it was worth getting slapped around a little in order to get a new car.
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Based on this, my opinion is that nothing a woman can do justifies a man beating her to death.
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Old 04-06-2004, 09:19 PM   #32
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What I was saying was that in SOME cases, the woman ( or the man if it happens to be reversed) can purposefully instigate the abuser into losing control, because they enjoy some control for a short time afterward. This because of the guilt that the abuser feels toward what they have done.
Is that what you're doing here? Stirring the shit so folks get cheesed at ya? Because I'm willing to bet that more than a few of the women would be more than happy to slap some sense into you.
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Old 04-06-2004, 10:04 PM   #33
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I'm willing to bet that more than a few of the women would be more than happy to slap some sense into you.

But he would enjoy it !!!!!!!


Seriously though , the way i was raised was to NEVER hit a woman !! I have only broken this once in my life on purpose ,
when a girl in the PI was chaseing me down the street with a
6" butterfly knife with death in her eyes , I put on the brakes and cloth linded her in the face , then ran off like a scared little kid .
When i made my weekly phone call home i asked my mom about this , she didn't have a problem with it , "you were defending your self "


Rember this Blue , you can pick your friends , but not your family . I have found this to be true again and again . I have helped a certin member of my family SO much ( beat the crap out of an abuseive husband , helped move , alliby , cash for grocerys to feed her kids ( yea right !!! it went right up her nose or arm ) that aftre a while i started to see the word SUCKER appear on my forhead . I won't get in to the detailes about the last straw , but i can only be told to "FUCK OFF , AND STAY OUT OF MY AFFAIRS " so many times befor i do just that , let her live in the cess pool of a life she has created for her self .

I do feel bad for her kids though , but they are just the same as her .
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Old 04-07-2004, 10:43 AM   #34
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I agree with LJ. I've seen it more than once. I've even had a woman tell me it was worth getting slapped around a little in order to get a new car.
Well then, that woman has issues that have not been addressed. That makes no godddamn sense to me whatsoever.

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Nope. Why do you ask?
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Old 04-07-2004, 10:54 AM   #35
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Is that what you're doing here? Stirring the shit so folks get cheesed at ya? Because I'm willing to bet that more than a few of the women would be more than happy to slap some sense into you.
stir shit? moi?

you should know better, dagney. And as far as cheesed females go.... if you feel froggy, then leap!
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Old 04-07-2004, 11:05 AM   #36
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Do not tempt her, lj. Violence against women is a hot-button topic for her.
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Old 04-07-2004, 11:08 AM   #37
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stir shit? moi?

you should know better, dagney. And as far as cheesed females go.... if you feel froggy, then leap!
Nah, never was much good at games of leap frog. I will make this comment, however. For every woman who might deliberately incite a man to wrath, there's a guy who will become physically abusive at the smallest provocation (or nonprovocation). This type will holler, "She MADE me do it!" This is the equivalent of complaining, "The devil made me do it." Physical abuse by ANYBODY, man or woman, serves no constructive end.
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Old 04-07-2004, 11:19 AM   #38
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Nah, never was much good at games of leap frog. I will make this comment, however. For every woman who might deliberately incite a man to wrath, there's a guy who will become physically abusive at the smallest provocation (or nonprovocation). This type will holler, "She MADE me do it!" This is the equivalent of complaining, "The devil made me do it." Physical abuse by ANYBODY, man or woman, serves no constructive end.
Of course it doesn't. But that statement doesn't address the question of whether women are always just the innocent victim, or if they are sometimes a willing participant in a fucked up relationship. Trying to help the latter usually backfires when you assume they are the former.
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