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Undertoad · 11-09-2004, 02:22 PM

I don't say they're all "desert Arabs", just a majority of them; but even if you're from Marin County, you don't go to miserably cold unfamiliar mountainous Afghanistan just to take in the scenery.

Happy Monkey · 11-09-2004, 02:32 PM

What if you're from, let's say... Afghanistan?

11-09-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

But secondly, do you think people in the US arrested with Visa problems wound up in Git-mo?

Who knows? That's the problem in a nutshell. They aren't allowed to have lawyers, they don't get to hear the charges against them, and nobody is allowed to know who they are.

I am sure that the majority of prisoners at Gitmo were indeed enemy combatants, but when people are held in such a manner as the ones at Gitmo are being held under conditions which defy both the Geneva Convention and US law and the Supreme Court has ruled that these folks do have the right to habeus corpus, you have got to wonder just what's going on.

If the world thinks the US is attempting to hide something, it can hardly be blamed.

flippant · 11-09-2004, 02:43 PM

I think I'm going to stick with the opinions of the civil rights attorneys working around the clock to get the nameless masses out.(once an impossibility now a little more open) I'm not going to do your work for you on the study of immigration laws vs. human rights. It wasn't a Visa problem in the first place that I am referring to....It was a simple problem of a change of address on registration records. People were taken when registering for a new semester. Most did not land in Gitmo...Some did, but all were under investigation. That is when college bounders Dropped Out. Illegal immigrants were taken with less of a profile. I'm not going to explain the obvious past anymore do your own research. As for "desert arabs" it was your context. Now I'm going to go get my "American owned and operated" tag line.

jaguar · 11-09-2004, 03:18 PM

Beestie, by doing something that has been suggested plenty of times but somehow it seems more popular to bomb people into submission or in most cases, shallow graves to be the food for the seeds of the next generation's anger. Give them jobs, stable governments, aircon, Ford Escorts and make their societies vibrant and forward looking. See how many pick up guns then. What's needed is a new Marshall plan. Hug the bastards to death, killing them is about as pointless as it gets, you're swinging at a hydra and you're hitting everything else in the process. Extremeist nutters of any colour or stripe are only really a dangerous force when they gain popular support.

Undertoad · 11-09-2004, 04:09 PM

Mari, I wasn't asking you.

flip, can I get a cite please, proof that anyone in Gitmo was picked up on immigration problems with the educational visas.

flippant · 11-09-2004, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by flippant

I'm not going to do your work for you on the study of immigration laws vs. human rights. I'm not going to explain the obvious past anymore do your own research. Now I'm going to go get my "American owned and operated" tag line.

Reiteration not repitition.

russotto · 11-09-2004, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jaguar

On the downside the actions of the US since the 9/11 attacks has inflamed world opinion, galvanised the Islamic world's opinion of the US and alienated traditional allies. In the long run, which is better at keeping america safe?

Number of incidents at the World Trade Center while the US was playing Mr. Nice Guy: 2.

Number of incidents since W decided to be a real meany: 0

Looks like galvanizing Islamic world's opinion against the US (which is effectively a no-op anyway) is safer.

flippant · 11-09-2004, 04:38 PM

[quote=Undertoad]Mari, I wasn't asking you.

Don't tell me to shut up then start asking questions that's in bad form.

Are you the opinion monitor now?

Chairman?

Roosta · 11-09-2004, 04:54 PM

Some of the British people that were caught and detained over there said they were tourists. Who on earth books a holiday in a war zone. These people are smiling assasins.

Undertoad · 11-09-2004, 05:02 PM

Mariflip, you are a treat whether you're plural or singular.

Let's just not get into this until you know what you are saying, which apparently neither or either of you does.

garnet · 11-09-2004, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by russotto

Number of incidents since W decided to be a real meany: 0

Looks like galvanizing Islamic world's opinion against the US (which is effectively a no-op anyway) is safer.

Yeah, invading Iraq sure calmed down all those people in the Middle East who hate our guts. They're so scared of George W. Bush that they'll never do any mean terrorist things again.

Yeah right.

Happy Monkey · 11-09-2004, 05:36 PM

Number of years between WTC attacks: 8
Number of years since last WTC attack: 3

11-09-2004, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Mariflip, you are a treat whether you're plural or singular.

Let's just not get into this until you know what you are saying, which apparently neither or either of you does.

You seem a tad confused yourself, UT. And since when is there a rule that only one person can answer a question? I gave my thoughts as to why Flippant's post was relevant, and she gave hers.

And no, much as I would love to be in my 20's, drop dead beautiful, and smart as a whip, Flippant is not my alter ego nor am I hers.

flippant · 11-09-2004, 06:01 PM

ooh pa-dow. Mari you are oh too kind. If I had an alter ego choice you wouldn't be far from it anyway. Mari's hot. Could you post my pic Mari? We'll clear this up. You know the one......I'll PM my pass.

11-09-2004, 02:32 PM	#32
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	What if you're from, let's say... Afghanistan? __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

11-09-2004, 03:18 PM	#35
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Beestie, by doing something that has been suggested plenty of times but somehow it seems more popular to bomb people into submission or in most cases, shallow graves to be the food for the seeds of the next generation's anger. Give them jobs, stable governments, aircon, Ford Escorts and make their societies vibrant and forward looking. See how many pick up guns then. What's needed is a new Marshall plan. Hug the bastards to death, killing them is about as pointless as it gets, you're swinging at a hydra and you're hitting everything else in the process. Extremeist nutters of any colour or stripe are only really a dangerous force when they gain popular support. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

11-09-2004, 04:54 PM	#40
Roosta Nutter. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: England Posts: 221	Some of the British people that were caught and detained over there said they were tourists. Who on earth books a holiday in a war zone. These people are smiling assasins. __________________ Back from the brink...

11-09-2004, 05:36 PM	#43
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Number of years between WTC attacks: 8 Number of years since last WTC attack: 3 __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

11-09-2004, 02:22 PM	#31
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I don't say they're all "desert Arabs", just a majority of them; but even if you're from Marin County, you don't go to miserably cold unfamiliar mountainous Afghanistan just to take in the scenery.

11-09-2004, 02:43 PM	#34
flippant shameless....so stop trying so hard....-me Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Colorado location* Posts: 215	I think I'm going to stick with the opinions of the civil rights attorneys working around the clock to get the nameless masses out.(once an impossibility now a little more open) I'm not going to do your work for you on the study of immigration laws vs. human rights. It wasn't a Visa problem in the first place that I am referring to....It was a simple problem of a change of address on registration records. People were taken when registering for a new semester. Most did not land in Gitmo...Some did, but all were under investigation. That is when college bounders Dropped Out. Illegal immigrants were taken with less of a profile. I'm not going to explain the obvious past anymore do your own research. As for "desert arabs" it was your context. Now I'm going to go get my "American owned and operated" tag line.

11-09-2004, 04:09 PM	#36
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Mari, I wasn't asking you. flip, can I get a cite please, proof that anyone in Gitmo was picked up on immigration problems with the educational visas.

11-09-2004, 04:38 PM	#39
flippant shameless....so stop trying so hard....-me Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Colorado location* Posts: 215	[quote=Undertoad]Mari, I wasn't asking you. Don't tell me to shut up then start asking questions that's in bad form. Are you the opinion monitor now? Chairman?

11-09-2004, 05:02 PM	#41
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Mariflip, you are a treat whether you're plural or singular. Let's just not get into this until you know what you are saying, which apparently neither or either of you does.

11-09-2004, 06:01 PM	#45
flippant shameless....so stop trying so hard....-me Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Colorado location* Posts: 215	ooh pa-dow. Mari you are oh too kind. If I had an alter ego choice you wouldn't be far from it anyway. Mari's hot. Could you post my pic Mari? We'll clear this up. You know the one......I'll PM my pass.

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