Well, hate's now a crime, even if you don't do anything... - Page 3

zippyt · 08-31-2005, 11:02 PM

Mr. Phelps was in my area recently , protesting at a dead solders funeral , standing on an American flag , shouting " RANDY BELL BURNIN HELL !!!"
The dead solders name was Randy Bell .
Mr. Phelps whole premis for the deminstration was that since the Gubmnt had let gays in the millatary dead solgers were Gods retribution .
I was raised to beleve God was ALL about love , forgiveness and accaeptance .

I didn't know about this little untill a few days later , or i would have made sure i was there and I WOULD have ended up in jail !!!!!!!

I beleve STRONGLY in 1st amendment rights but this FUCKSTICK went TOOOO FAR !!!

Randy Bells parents should sue this ass hole for emotional distress or sume such .

Oh and Mr. Phelps was surrounded by cops to keep him safe .

Radar · 08-31-2005, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Beestie

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought we were all entitled to equal protection under the law. Making an act a bigger crime (via harsher penalties) when commited against a member of a certain group relative to someone not a member of that group constitutes, imo, unequal protection under the law and, therefore, is unconstitutional. Radar? Anyone? Bueller?

As much as I can't stand scumbags like the jackass harassing people for being gay, or racist pricks, if they're not free, none of us is. We're only as free as the most offensive of us is free to say what he wants.

I am against all "hate crimes" legislation. It puts the government in the position of being "thought police". It's incredibly stupid to punish motives. You should punish the crime the same way regardless of motive. A man who kills an old woman because he's a psycho, is guilty of the exact same crime as a man who kills the same old woman because she's Jewish and the same crime as that of a man who killed the woman because he wanted her purse. The punishment should be the same in all cases. It should be the same crime regardless of the occupation of the victim or the criminal....say a cop, firefighter, or the president vs. being an office worker, burger flipper, or ditch digger.

Hate is not a crime. People have the right to be stupid. Even completely stupid, pathetic, worthless losers like nicotinegun should be free to be stupid, free to hate, and free to act like an asshole. On the other hand, we are all free to ignore blithering idiots of his ilk.

NICOTINEGUN · 09-01-2005, 12:07 AM

This is classic-"if they're not free, none of us is." LOL, I am laughing so hard. Thanks, Radar. Keep them coming. This is classic. The guys at the University are going to get a kick out of this. You actually used the word stupid three times. I see that online GED is working like a charm. LOL, what a treat. Seriously, thank you. Ize likes yoor werds.

Happy Monkey · 09-01-2005, 12:08 AM

Actually, the aim of hate crimes, which can of course be perverted by implementation and enforcement, is to punish intimidation and threats. A hate crime is more than a crime against an individual; it is a threat to their community. Swastikas on a synogogue is more than vandalism, and a burning cross on a lawn is more than littering.

NICOTINEGUN · 09-01-2005, 12:24 AM

Dick Morris's "Off With Their Heads" Well where is the God Damn underline thingy? Oh, I bet you people type your comments up prepost on Word and then post them so you have all the spell checks made for you.
Come talk to me when you have enough education to aggressively negotiate your salary. A salary is what you earn a year, despite hours worked. You make money per hour. People like me earn salaries. Your "grammar" check was ridiculous. Talk to my professors. They'll laugh at you too. Nice try though.

NICOTINEGUN · 09-01-2005, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle

I hate to break the whole goodwill thing, but I do think Dick Morris is a genius. I hated him for that very reason during the Clinton years, and I love him for it now that he's on our side.

Mr. Noodle, you are dumb. Did you read Morris's Rewriting History (I know it's supposed to be underlined but I don't have the option available at this juncture)? I want to get my hands on it. Did you ever hear anything about Dick getting in a bit of trouble with the law? Something about underage kids? Just curious.
You are still a silly bastard. I hate you. I hope you stub your toe very seriously. I don't want you to die, but I want you to at least stub your toe, fall to the floor, and hit your face.
Have you read anything by Hannity or the skinny chick, Anne Coulter? Check them out. Watch your step, Noodle.

lookout123 · 09-01-2005, 01:30 AM

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As much as I can't stand scumbags like the jackass harassing people for being gay, or racist pricks, if they're not free, none of us is. We're only as free as the most offensive of us is free to say what he wants.

although i disagree radar a lot, i will stand with him on this one. phelps has the right to say anything he wants - even if he is the biggest scumbag on the planet. zippyt also has the right to jack him up if he is willing to face the legal consequences. (i'll contribute for your legal expenses, if the chance ever comes around again

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You make money per hour. People like me earn salaries.

you are a fuckwit. there are people on this board who earn more in a month than you do in a year, so get over yourself.

NICOTINEGUN · 09-01-2005, 01:43 AM

you are a fuckwit. there are people on this board who earn more in a month than you do in a year, so get over yourself.[/quote]

Oooh, Oooh..that isn't really an accomplishment right now, me being in the military at the moment. "Fuckwit?" That's awesome. You are a dummy face.

lookout123 · 09-01-2005, 01:45 AM

what branch? what unit? what specialty? in my years in the military i haven't run across too many trolls of your...veracity.

NICOTINEGUN · 09-01-2005, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

what branch? what unit? what specialty? in my years in the military i haven't run across too many trolls of your...veracity.

First off, Sister if you knew anything about the military during this time of war you would know not to ask. Recon..that's all you need to know. What Unit? Yeah, why don't I give you a ten digit grid to my location. A grid is a specific coordinate to a location that can be used to identify where a target is. You can have a 4,6,8, or 10 digit grid. We use them a lot for targeting and land navigation. If you dont' know grids, Dead Reckoning can work well depending on your environment. Dead Reckoning is when you choose a land mass, or something specific to focus on while you hump your ruck. A ruck is like a pack pack for adults. You carry about 80-100lbs worth of food, water, commo equipment, ammunition, maps, pluggers or GPSs, etc. It's a pain in the ass when you have to hump 20K and then send up your SALT or SALUTE reports. What else would you like to know that I can tell you? You want a picture of me holding a sign addressed to you while surrounded by Iraqis?

Happy Monkey · 09-01-2005, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NICOTINEGUN

First off, Sister if you knew anything about the military during this time of war you would know not to ask. Recon..that's all you need to know. What Unit? Yeah, why don't I give you a ten digit grid to my location.

Ha! So names of units are now secret?

capnhowdy · 09-01-2005, 06:45 AM

.....use caution in your tone, private.
and dont get smoked while you are sitting in the middle of the desert, surrounded by Iraqis, pounding away your personal insecurities on your keyboard.
Stop carrying your computer around with you and you may have a chance to keep up with the troops that are there doing their jobs. I bet if the military would have known what a punk you are they'd have never recruited you. If it sucks so bad why the hell did you volunteer? Maybe you are one of those leeches that live in our fine country who want the money, not the job. Pussy.
You may want to cosider finding another site where people share the same density as yourself. Maybe you could fool them. I'm not sure what branch of service you are in, (frankly I don't beleive any of your bullshit), but I am quite sure you are not a Marine. If you were, one of the Marines standing next to you would have ripped your face off by now.

Happy Monkey · 09-01-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyt

Mr. Phelps was in my area recently , protesting at a dead solders funeral , standing on an American flag , shouting " RANDY BELL BURNIN HELL !!!"

Heh. According to Hannity, Phelps is part of the "Anti-War Left".

lookout123 · 09-01-2005, 08:23 AM

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Ha! So names of units are now secret?

actually if he had just blindly posted a unit and location that would pretty much be a huge red flag that he is not there. what he has done is attempt to hide the fact that he is an animal feed salesman from bumfuck, KY who is bitter because no one IRL will listen to his stupidity anymore. operational security is a good cover. reminds me of the douchebag wannabe spy on True Lies .

wolf · 09-01-2005, 11:44 AM

He is what he says he is.

Move on.

08-31-2005, 11:02 PM	#31
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Mr. Phelps was in my area recently , protesting at a dead solders funeral , standing on an American flag , shouting " RANDY BELL BURNIN HELL !!!" The dead solders name was Randy Bell . Mr. Phelps whole premis for the deminstration was that since the Gubmnt had let gays in the millatary dead solgers were Gods retribution . I was raised to beleve God was ALL about love , forgiveness and accaeptance . I didn't know about this little untill a few days later , or i would have made sure i was there and I WOULD have ended up in jail !!!!!!! I beleve STRONGLY in 1st amendment rights but this FUCKSTICK went TOOOO FAR !!! Randy Bells parents should sue this ass hole for emotional distress or sume such . Oh and Mr. Phelps was surrounded by cops to keep him safe . __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

09-01-2005, 12:07 AM	#33
NICOTINEGUN Resident President Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 82	if they're not free, none of us is-this is the product of your education? This is classic-"if they're not free, none of us is." LOL, I am laughing so hard. Thanks, Radar. Keep them coming. This is classic. The guys at the University are going to get a kick out of this. You actually used the word stupid three times. I see that online GED is working like a charm. LOL, what a treat. Seriously, thank you. Ize likes yoor werds. __________________ Hurricanes are racist!

09-01-2005, 12:08 AM	#34
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Actually, the aim of hate crimes, which can of course be perverted by implementation and enforcement, is to punish intimidation and threats. A hate crime is more than a crime against an individual; it is a threat to their community. Swastikas on a synogogue is more than vandalism, and a burning cross on a lawn is more than littering. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

09-01-2005, 12:24 AM	#35
NICOTINEGUN Resident President Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 82	Dick Morris's "Off With Their Heads" Well where is the God Damn underline thingy? Oh, I bet you people type your comments up prepost on Word and then post them so you have all the spell checks made for you. Come talk to me when you have enough education to aggressively negotiate your salary. A salary is what you earn a year, despite hours worked. You make money per hour. People like me earn salaries. Your "grammar" check was ridiculous. Talk to my professors. They'll laugh at you too. Nice try though. __________________ Hurricanes are racist!

09-01-2005, 01:43 AM	#38
NICOTINEGUN Resident President Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 82	I know if you had a lunchpale you would hit me with it. you are a fuckwit. there are people on this board who earn more in a month than you do in a year, so get over yourself.[/quote] Oooh, Oooh..that isn't really an accomplishment right now, me being in the military at the moment. "Fuckwit?" That's awesome. You are a dummy face. __________________ Hurricanes are racist!

09-01-2005, 01:45 AM	#39
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	what branch? what unit? what specialty? in my years in the military i haven't run across too many trolls of your...veracity. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

09-01-2005, 06:45 AM	#42
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	.....use caution in your tone, private. and dont get smoked while you are sitting in the middle of the desert, surrounded by Iraqis, pounding away your personal insecurities on your keyboard. Stop carrying your computer around with you and you may have a chance to keep up with the troops that are there doing their jobs. I bet if the military would have known what a punk you are they'd have never recruited you. If it sucks so bad why the hell did you volunteer? Maybe you are one of those leeches that live in our fine country who want the money, not the job. Pussy. You may want to cosider finding another site where people share the same density as yourself. Maybe you could fool them. I'm not sure what branch of service you are in, (frankly I don't beleive any of your bullshit), but I am quite sure you are not a Marine. If you were, one of the Marines standing next to you would have ripped your face off by now. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

09-01-2005, 11:44 AM	#45
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	He is what he says he is. Move on. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

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