Mmmm... Dawkins... - Page 3

Happy Monkey · 06-07-2005, 12:08 PM

Because nothing's perfect, including reproductive methodology.

Undertoad · 06-07-2005, 12:33 PM

Species aren't "programmed" to evolve - they are only programmed to reproduce their DNA. But only the species that manages to do so will survive. This means that only species that find such advantages over time will reproduce their DNA. Increasing genetic diversity means that different species find the advantages more quickly and adapt to widely different conditions. Different species survive in different conditions, pushing the genetic record this way and that.

Troubleshooter · 06-07-2005, 01:13 PM

Evolution is a name we've assigned to a condition wherein genes more positively adapted to survival reproduce in the next generation and the less adapted do not.

The question is whether this is an intended effect or not correct?

johningerslev · 06-11-2005, 10:59 AM

yep - thanks troubleshooter

Troubleshooter · 06-12-2005, 04:01 PM

No problem, it's just that a significant number of arguments could be averted by people recognizing the idea of classifying an antecedent event as opposed to an event that is caused.

the lonely poet · 06-18-2005, 01:00 AM

humans are in an everchanging, utterly still, non-representative and certainly vague state of homeostasis. But what is so shocking and utterly contradictory about this homeostasis is that it's a homeostasis based in utter chaos and change. we all know that any words applied to this subject are a dishonest simplification, because by the time you have read these words, I, you, this conversation, the human state, the subjects of our discussion, the language in which I write, etc. will have all evolved to the extent that all these things will be utterly non-comprehensible to all of us. As Bertrand Russell said, "anyone who looks closely enough does not need darwin to know of evolution and its vast and infinite implications." ultimately, in this paradox between the total change and total stillness of human existence, we find the haunting beauty of all art, which is by its nature rooted in the past and never in the future.

wolf · 06-18-2005, 01:20 AM

Uh, yeah.

Clodfobble · 06-18-2005, 10:01 AM

I can see why you're lonely.

Carbonated_Brains · 06-18-2005, 07:32 PM

I hate insulting teenage philosophers, because they often do go on to do great things...

But come on man. Read that post again.

You didn't say anything!

wolf · 06-19-2005, 05:19 PM

He should do well in his chosen field then.

Or maybe he'll choose to become a corporate attorney and write disclaimers.

Jobs in industrial philosophy are pretty hard to come by.

I know. I tried.

Griff · 06-19-2005, 05:26 PM

Wow! He found the single intelligent thing Bertrand Russell ever said. Color me amazed.

Tonchi · 06-29-2005, 02:24 AM

Or he could have been reading too much Ionesco

06-07-2005, 12:08 PM	#31
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06-07-2005, 01:13 PM	#33
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Evolution is a name we've assigned to a condition wherein genes more positively adapted to survival reproduce in the next generation and the less adapted do not. The question is whether this is an intended effect or not correct? __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

06-12-2005, 04:01 PM	#35
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	No problem, it's just that a significant number of arguments could be averted by people recognizing the idea of classifying an antecedent event as opposed to an event that is caused. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

06-18-2005, 01:20 AM	#37
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Uh, yeah. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-19-2005, 05:19 PM	#40
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	He should do well in his chosen field then. Or maybe he'll choose to become a corporate attorney and write disclaimers. Jobs in industrial philosophy are pretty hard to come by. I know. I tried. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-07-2005, 12:33 PM	#32
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Species aren't "programmed" to evolve - they are only programmed to reproduce their DNA. But only the species that manages to do so will survive. This means that only species that find such advantages over time will reproduce their DNA. Increasing genetic diversity means that different species find the advantages more quickly and adapt to widely different conditions. Different species survive in different conditions, pushing the genetic record this way and that.

06-11-2005, 10:59 AM	#34
johningerslev Antagonistic Antagonist Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 22	yep - thanks troubleshooter

06-18-2005, 01:00 AM	#36
the lonely poet the lonley poet Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2	humans are in an everchanging, utterly still, non-representative and certainly vague state of homeostasis. But what is so shocking and utterly contradictory about this homeostasis is that it's a homeostasis based in utter chaos and change. we all know that any words applied to this subject are a dishonest simplification, because by the time you have read these words, I, you, this conversation, the human state, the subjects of our discussion, the language in which I write, etc. will have all evolved to the extent that all these things will be utterly non-comprehensible to all of us. As Bertrand Russell said, "anyone who looks closely enough does not need darwin to know of evolution and its vast and infinite implications." ultimately, in this paradox between the total change and total stillness of human existence, we find the haunting beauty of all art, which is by its nature rooted in the past and never in the future.

06-18-2005, 10:01 AM	#38
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I can see why you're lonely.

06-18-2005, 07:32 PM	#39
Carbonated_Brains Does it show up here when I type? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Between the smoky layers of a prosciutto sandwich! Posts: 355	I hate insulting teenage philosophers, because they often do go on to do great things... But come on man. Read that post again. You didn't say anything!

06-19-2005, 05:26 PM	#41
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Wow! He found the single intelligent thing Bertrand Russell ever said. Color me amazed. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-29-2005, 02:24 AM	#42
Tonchi Victim of gravity Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hiding in plain sight Posts: 1,412	Or he could have been reading too much Ionesco __________________ Everything you've ever heard about Fresno is true.

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