Tea Tree Oil and other wonders - Page 3

xoxoxoBruce · 06-11-2005, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Silent

My partner has severe reactions to most yeast infection treatments. She has tried yogurt, and garlic and peroxide but finally settled on a diluted tea tree oil douche as the best method. It takes a few days of twice daily doses (and can sting if you get the concentration too high) but does work quite well.

Listerine...straight up, if you haven't scratched too much. 50% solution if you have. Works NOW.
Once should do it, twice to be sure.

OnyxCougar · 06-13-2005, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Listerine...straight up, if you haven't scratched too much. 50% solution if you have. Works NOW.
Once should do it, twice to be sure.

If that shit burns my mouth, I'm DAMN sure not putting it up THERE....

warch · 06-09-2005, 01:45 PM

I found a site with some studies:
The Linus Pauling Institute
A number of studies have compared tea tree oil with conventional medications:

* The topical application of 5% tea tree oil versus 5% benzoyl peroxide has been investigated in the treatment of acne vulgaris caused by the microorganism Propionibacterium acnes. Both compounds reduced the number of acne lesions, although the action of tea tree oil was slower, possibly due to the use of a suboptimal concentration. Tea tree oil produced fewer side effects than the benzoyl peroxide.

* The use of 10% tea tree oil cream has been compared with 1% tolnaflate and placebo creams in the treatment of tinea pedis, or ringworm. This is the commonest form of superficial dermal infection caused by several related fungi. Patients in the tea tree group and tolnaflate group had significant clinical improvement, but the tea tree oil did not cure the condition. However, as with the acne study, the concentration of the oil may have been suboptimal. Unlike the oil, tolnaflate use resulted in minor skin irritation.

* In another study, the topical application of 1% clotrimazole solution or 100% tea tree oil for the treatment of toenail disease (onychomycosis) resulted in nearly identical clinical improvement.

* Gynecological conditions, including vaginal infections like trichomonal vaginitis, have been successfully treated with tea tree oil. Anaerobic (bacterial) vaginosis is usually treated with oral nitroimidazoles like metronidazole, but these drugs may cause toxic side effects, and long-term recurrence is very high. Topical treatment with tea tree oil may be more effective because the abnormal bacterial flora is replaced by normal lactobacillus.

Bacterial and fungal microorganisms against which tea tree oil has been shown to be effective in culture
MICROORGANISM
Fungi
Aspergillus flavus
Aspergillus niger
Candida albicans
Malassezia furfur
Bacteria
Escherichia coli
Propionibacterium acnes
Proteus vulgaris
Pseudomonas aeruginosa
Staphylococcus aureus

wolf · 06-09-2005, 01:51 PM

I'm not a scientist, but I do have a master's degree ...

The number of times the Pauling folks say, "Well, maybe it didn't work because the concentration was suboptimal" leads me to conclude that the tea tree oil makes you feel like you're doing something, but doesn't actually make you any better than a similar application of time and patience would.

Labrat, correct me if I'm wrong, but in "real science" don't you retest at a higher concentration if you've decided your original concentration is "suboptimal"?

I vaguely recall something about independent and dependent variables from gradual school.

warch · 06-09-2005, 01:53 PM

From a sales pitch:

Tea Tree Oil is steam distilled from an extremely hardy tree native to Australia - when cut down, the Tea Tree will quickly regrow from the stump. The Aborigines in northeastern New South Wales have used tee tree as a healing herb for many generations. They make a poultice of the leaves and treat skin infections, cuts and wounds.

After landing the H.M.S. Endeavor in Botany Bay in 1770, Captain James Cook and his party came upon a grove of trees thick with sticky, aromatic leaves that they found made a spicy tea. The 'Tea Tree', as it was called by Captain Cook, became a valued bush remedy used by early European settlers.

in 1923 an Australian government scientist, Dr. A. R. Penfold, conducted a study of tea tree essential oil, and discovered it to be 12 times more potent as an antiseptic bactericide than carbolic acid (the standard at the time). Tea Tree oil became recognized, according to the British Medical Journal in 1933, as 'a powerful disinfectant, non-poisonous and non-irritating'.

Tea Tree essential oil is now well known in natural medicine for its antimicrobial, anti-viral, and anti-fungal effects. Some of it's immune supportive properties may be a result of it's anti-depressant effects, as one's emotional well-being has a significant impact on the body's ability to resist infection. Tea Tree essential oil can also help sooth insect bites, but is even better used as an insect repellent; one aromatherapist claims Tea Tree Oil is the best she's ever used. A must for the traveler's medicine kit.

Tea Tree Oil is found in many oral hygiene products, and it's wide spectrum of action has made it traditionally useful in treating mouth sores and gums, for acne, and for herpes infections, as well as for general immune system stimulation and for support when fighting respiratory infections. Tea Tree Oil has the wonderful property of effectively fighting infections without harming tissues and may be effective for infections of the genital area, particularly candida-related problems, vaginitis and trichomonas.

wolf · 06-11-2005, 01:41 AM

Oh, yeah. The other thing about homeopathy ... the "cures" are all substances that would cause the symptoms that you are having if you took it at a concentration that involved actual molecules of the substance.

wolf · 06-12-2005, 05:29 PM

You can get a good drunk off it too.

Undertoad · 06-13-2005, 10:17 AM

Oh cmon, the Natural Citrus version is not so bad.

OnyxCougar · 06-13-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Oh cmon, the Natural Citrus version is not so bad.

Stick your dick in a big bowl of it for 30 seconds and get back to me.

OnyxCougar · 06-13-2005, 10:18 AM

I have a dandruff issue (my scalp is dry and itchy) and I found a shampoo at a solon I went to, it was tea tree shampoo, and mixed with mint, for smell, but all natural, and when I washed my hair, I felt it tingling, a really good kind of tingle, and it "felt" minty, and clean, if that makes sense. The bottle warned the dandruff would get worse before it got better, and it did, but then like a week later, I was dandruff free.

Until I stopped using it.

But it really worked and I've been a fan ever since.

melidasaur · 06-13-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

I have a dandruff issue (my scalp is dry and itchy) and I found a shampoo at a solon I went to, it was tea tree shampoo, and mixed with mint, for smell, but all natural, and when I washed my hair, I felt it tingling, a really good kind of tingle, and it "felt" minty, and clean, if that makes sense. The bottle warned the dandruff would get worse before it got better, and it did, but then like a week later, I was dandruff free.

Until I stopped using it.

But it really worked and I've been a fan ever since.

What's it called? I could use some... my scalp is soooo dry right now.

Undertoad · 06-13-2005, 10:40 AM

OK, what next?

OnyxCougar · 06-13-2005, 12:22 PM

LOL uh, go find Jacquelita and tell her you're citrus-y fresh?

It didn't sting or burn or anything??

Undertoad · 06-13-2005, 12:25 PM

Well the way I see it, the burning tells you it's working!

What it's working at, I have no idea.

warch · 06-13-2005, 12:35 PM

Scrubbing bubbles.

Tea tree is a relative of eucolyptus (too lazy to check spelling), so adds to the tinglyosity.

06-09-2005, 01:51 PM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I'm not a scientist, but I do have a master's degree ... The number of times the Pauling folks say, "Well, maybe it didn't work because the concentration was suboptimal" leads me to conclude that the tea tree oil makes you feel like you're doing something, but doesn't actually make you any better than a similar application of time and patience would. Labrat, correct me if I'm wrong, but in "real science" don't you retest at a higher concentration if you've decided your original concentration is "suboptimal"? I vaguely recall something about independent and dependent variables from gradual school. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-11-2005, 01:41 AM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Oh, yeah. The other thing about homeopathy ... the "cures" are all substances that would cause the symptoms that you are having if you took it at a concentration that involved actual molecules of the substance. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-12-2005, 05:29 PM	#7
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	You can get a good drunk off it too. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-13-2005, 10:18 AM	#10
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	I have a dandruff issue (my scalp is dry and itchy) and I found a shampoo at a solon I went to, it was tea tree shampoo, and mixed with mint, for smell, but all natural, and when I washed my hair, I felt it tingling, a really good kind of tingle, and it "felt" minty, and clean, if that makes sense. The bottle warned the dandruff would get worse before it got better, and it did, but then like a week later, I was dandruff free. Until I stopped using it. But it really worked and I've been a fan ever since. __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

06-13-2005, 12:22 PM	#13
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	LOL uh, go find Jacquelita and tell her you're citrus-y fresh? It didn't sting or burn or anything?? __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

06-09-2005, 01:45 PM	#3
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	I found a site with some studies: The Linus Pauling Institute A number of studies have compared tea tree oil with conventional medications: * The topical application of 5% tea tree oil versus 5% benzoyl peroxide has been investigated in the treatment of acne vulgaris caused by the microorganism Propionibacterium acnes. Both compounds reduced the number of acne lesions, although the action of tea tree oil was slower, possibly due to the use of a suboptimal concentration. Tea tree oil produced fewer side effects than the benzoyl peroxide. * The use of 10% tea tree oil cream has been compared with 1% tolnaflate and placebo creams in the treatment of tinea pedis, or ringworm. This is the commonest form of superficial dermal infection caused by several related fungi. Patients in the tea tree group and tolnaflate group had significant clinical improvement, but the tea tree oil did not cure the condition. However, as with the acne study, the concentration of the oil may have been suboptimal. Unlike the oil, tolnaflate use resulted in minor skin irritation. * In another study, the topical application of 1% clotrimazole solution or 100% tea tree oil for the treatment of toenail disease (onychomycosis) resulted in nearly identical clinical improvement. * Gynecological conditions, including vaginal infections like trichomonal vaginitis, have been successfully treated with tea tree oil. Anaerobic (bacterial) vaginosis is usually treated with oral nitroimidazoles like metronidazole, but these drugs may cause toxic side effects, and long-term recurrence is very high. Topical treatment with tea tree oil may be more effective because the abnormal bacterial flora is replaced by normal lactobacillus. Bacterial and fungal microorganisms against which tea tree oil has been shown to be effective in culture MICROORGANISM Fungi Aspergillus flavus Aspergillus niger Candida albicans Malassezia furfur Bacteria Escherichia coli Propionibacterium acnes Proteus vulgaris Pseudomonas aeruginosa Staphylococcus aureus

06-09-2005, 01:53 PM	#5
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	From a sales pitch: Tea Tree Oil is steam distilled from an extremely hardy tree native to Australia - when cut down, the Tea Tree will quickly regrow from the stump. The Aborigines in northeastern New South Wales have used tee tree as a healing herb for many generations. They make a poultice of the leaves and treat skin infections, cuts and wounds. After landing the H.M.S. Endeavor in Botany Bay in 1770, Captain James Cook and his party came upon a grove of trees thick with sticky, aromatic leaves that they found made a spicy tea. The 'Tea Tree', as it was called by Captain Cook, became a valued bush remedy used by early European settlers. in 1923 an Australian government scientist, Dr. A. R. Penfold, conducted a study of tea tree essential oil, and discovered it to be 12 times more potent as an antiseptic bactericide than carbolic acid (the standard at the time). Tea Tree oil became recognized, according to the British Medical Journal in 1933, as 'a powerful disinfectant, non-poisonous and non-irritating'. Tea Tree essential oil is now well known in natural medicine for its antimicrobial, anti-viral, and anti-fungal effects. Some of it's immune supportive properties may be a result of it's anti-depressant effects, as one's emotional well-being has a significant impact on the body's ability to resist infection. Tea Tree essential oil can also help sooth insect bites, but is even better used as an insect repellent; one aromatherapist claims Tea Tree Oil is the best she's ever used. A must for the traveler's medicine kit. Tea Tree Oil is found in many oral hygiene products, and it's wide spectrum of action has made it traditionally useful in treating mouth sores and gums, for acne, and for herpes infections, as well as for general immune system stimulation and for support when fighting respiratory infections. Tea Tree Oil has the wonderful property of effectively fighting infections without harming tissues and may be effective for infections of the genital area, particularly candida-related problems, vaginitis and trichomonas.

06-13-2005, 10:17 AM	#8
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Oh cmon, the Natural Citrus version is not so bad.

06-13-2005, 10:40 AM	#12
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	OK, what next?

06-13-2005, 12:25 PM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Well the way I see it, the burning tells you it's working! What it's working at, I have no idea.

06-13-2005, 12:35 PM	#15
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Scrubbing bubbles. Tea tree is a relative of eucolyptus (too lazy to check spelling), so adds to the tinglyosity.

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