Somebody knows somth'in bout birth'n hurricanes - Page 3

tw · 09-08-2005, 04:53 PM

I found this animated surface temperature map. Notice the suddenly high water temperatures that preceded Katrina's visit to those areas.
Weekly Sea Surface Temperatures
The dark red areas are water that is above 30 degree C. To Americans, that is water above 86 degrees F; water that was reported elsewhere to be as much as 90 degrees F.

At one point, the water off east coast FL gets that warm. This is where Katrina suddenly became a hurricane. Suddenly because I was watching that trivial storm long before - and it remained a nothing until it got to the east FL coast.

Based only upon those maps, then one could speculate that Katrina took a lot of heat out of the Gulf.

tw · 09-18-2005, 12:27 AM

And now we have Tropical Storm PHILIPPE located in the Atlantic due east of the windward antillies and Carribean Sea. But why stop there? Sitting for a long time NE of Puerto Rico over a hot spot was what we now call Tropical Depression 18. Having moved westward towards the Bahamas, it is targeting the center of the Gulf of Mexico. This could be Rita. Wait. Rita would be 17th. Only one Tropical Depression did not get strong enough to be named.

Of course the Pacific had it worse last year. If I remember, they had either 24 or 26 powerful storms. But the trend is on. Many hurricanes and cyclones in both oceans.

zippyt · 09-18-2005, 12:46 AM

plthijinx: very true. we'll just have to see what happenes. my only hope is that nothing comes my way, or if it does, it goes southward between corpus and b-ville like before....

tw · 09-18-2005, 05:17 PM

It's now called Tropical Storm Rita, headed for warmer water between Cuba and FL. In about 5 days, somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico. Chasing Rita is Phillipe. Oh Stan, where art thou.

wolf · 09-18-2005, 10:52 PM

Just so long as it makes landfall before I get there ...

plthijinx · 09-19-2005, 03:54 PM

hmpf. looks like i'll be moving airplanes this weekend instead of dove hunting like originally planned.

OnyxCougar · 09-21-2005, 11:01 AM

The 5 day outlook:

<img src="http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT18/refresh/AL1805W5_sm2+gif/145605W_sm.gif">

Kitsune · 09-21-2005, 11:44 AM

Oh man is this shit getting old! I'd run outside to curse at the skies and ocean for all the destruction, but I know not to make that mistake ever again...

tw · 09-21-2005, 11:35 PM

When a hurricane gets down to 920 mb, well that is a low pressure system that would bottom out most barometers. However tonight's statement from the National Hurricane Center (22 September 2005 0300 zulu) has this little gem:

Quote:

RITA HAS CONTINUED TO STRENGTHEN SINCE THE LAST ADVISORY. A DROPSONDE IN THE EYE OF RITA AROUND 21/2309Z RECORDED A PRESSURE OF 899 MB WITH A SURFACE WIND OF 32 KT. ANYTHING BELOW 10 KT IS USUALLY CONSIDERED A VALID PRESSURE. HOWEVER...THE GENERAL THUMB RULE IS TO DECREASE THE PRESSURE 1 MB FOR EVERY 10 KT ABOVE THAT WIND SPEED. IN THIS CASE... RITA'S CENTRAL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE 897 MB...MAKING IT THE THIRD MOST INTENSE HURRICANE IN TERMS OF PRESSURE FOR THE ATLANTIC BASIN.

Using Rush Limbaugh logic, global warming has clearly increased the intensity of hurricanes. But Rush Limbaugh logic also has another commandment from his god. Pervert facts only for a political agenda. And you thought Rush was playing dead due to criticism from The Cellar.

plthijinx · 09-21-2005, 11:47 AM

and the sucky part is NBN and I are where the red dot is....

plthijinx · 09-21-2005, 01:38 PM

here is a GOES satellite image of the gulf.....

Kitsune · 09-21-2005, 02:54 PM

Plthijinx, how far inland are you?

plthijinx · 09-21-2005, 03:16 PM

roughly 50 miles and 83 feet msl.

Undertoad · 09-21-2005, 03:22 PM

Well if anything happens to you, you can be sure that your local, state, and national officials have it covered.

plthijinx · 09-21-2005, 03:24 PM

yeah, that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. i've been dealing with the sheriff's department since last month on another matter. they can't figure out whether to pick their head or scratch their ass.

09-18-2005, 12:46 AM	#3
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	plthijinx: very true. we'll just have to see what happenes. my only hope is that nothing comes my way, or if it does, it goes southward between corpus and b-ville like before.... __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

09-18-2005, 10:52 PM	#5
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Just so long as it makes landfall before I get there ... __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

09-19-2005, 03:54 PM	#6
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	hmpf. looks like i'll be moving airplanes this weekend instead of dove hunting like originally planned. Attached Images __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

09-21-2005, 11:01 AM	#7
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	The 5 day outlook: <img src="http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT18/refresh/AL1805W5_sm2+gif/145605W_sm.gif"> __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

09-21-2005, 11:47 AM	#10
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	and the sucky part is NBN and I are where the red dot is.... Attached Images __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

09-08-2005, 04:53 PM	#1
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	I found this animated surface temperature map. Notice the suddenly high water temperatures that preceded Katrina's visit to those areas. Weekly Sea Surface Temperatures The dark red areas are water that is above 30 degree C. To Americans, that is water above 86 degrees F; water that was reported elsewhere to be as much as 90 degrees F. At one point, the water off east coast FL gets that warm. This is where Katrina suddenly became a hurricane. Suddenly because I was watching that trivial storm long before - and it remained a nothing until it got to the east FL coast. Based only upon those maps, then one could speculate that Katrina took a lot of heat out of the Gulf.

09-18-2005, 12:27 AM	#2
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	And now we have Tropical Storm PHILIPPE located in the Atlantic due east of the windward antillies and Carribean Sea. But why stop there? Sitting for a long time NE of Puerto Rico over a hot spot was what we now call Tropical Depression 18. Having moved westward towards the Bahamas, it is targeting the center of the Gulf of Mexico. This could be Rita. Wait. Rita would be 17th. Only one Tropical Depression did not get strong enough to be named. Of course the Pacific had it worse last year. If I remember, they had either 24 or 26 powerful storms. But the trend is on. Many hurricanes and cyclones in both oceans.

09-18-2005, 05:17 PM	#4
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	It's now called Tropical Storm Rita, headed for warmer water between Cuba and FL. In about 5 days, somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico. Chasing Rita is Phillipe. Oh Stan, where art thou.

09-21-2005, 11:44 AM	#8
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Oh man is this shit getting old! I'd run outside to curse at the skies and ocean for all the destruction, but I know not to make that mistake ever again...

09-21-2005, 01:38 PM	#11
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	here is a GOES satellite image of the gulf..... __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

09-21-2005, 02:54 PM	#12
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Plthijinx, how far inland are you?

09-21-2005, 03:16 PM	#13
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	roughly 50 miles and 83 feet msl. __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

09-21-2005, 03:22 PM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Well if anything happens to you, you can be sure that your local, state, and national officials have it covered.

09-21-2005, 03:24 PM	#15
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	yeah, that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. i've been dealing with the sheriff's department since last month on another matter. they can't figure out whether to pick their head or scratch their ass. __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

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