We support our troops????

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Ann Landers, advice columnist, once suggested not zero, but two cents for service worth maybe that much. I've never been that disappointed in a restaurant's service, but if, as, and when...

I heard McDonald's has good sevice,I should try it one day.

[capnhowdy]

Great effort, Mari.... The world needs more people like yourself who will assume responsability as a citizen and do what they can to help, whether it be directly or indirectly instead of pissing and moaning and fault finding. May God bless you.

Sincerely Grateful,

capnhowdy, USMC (VV)

Originally Posted by capnhowdy

Great effort, Mari.... The world needs more people like yourself who will assume responsability as a citizen and do what they can to help, whether it be directly or indirectly instead of pissing and moaning and fault finding. May God bless you.

Sincerely Grateful,

capnhowdy, USMC (VV)

Thanks, capn!

As a "pacifist," I take violent exception to the following:

But I'm not for the war. And being against the war and saying you support the troops is one of the wussiest positions the pacifists have ever taken - and they're wussy by definition. It's as if the one lesson they took away from Vietnam wasn't to avoid foreign conflicts with no pressing national interest, but to remember to throw a parade afterward.

One reason I am opposed to the conflict in Iraq is precisely because I DO support our troops. When my career military father did two tours in Vietnam, I wrote him almost every day. I was opposed to that war, too, and I don't think I was a wussy girl because I opposed Johnson's and Nixon's policies while still respecting my father's and every other soldier's courage and service to his country.

Here's a little story that shows some of the other good things Soldier's Angels do. My friend Lisa whose husband is currently in Iraq told me the following story:

Her husband is currently stationed somewhere near Baghdad.. Apparently some Iraqi who was not pleased to be "liberated" lobbed an incendiary devise at one of the barracks which house the soldiers in his outfit. No soldiers were killed, but the barracks caught fire. The Army has no fire fighting equipment over there! (Unbelievable, eh?) They had to call in an Iraqi fire department. Needless to say, the Iraqi's took their sweet time getting there, and when they arrived they "accidently" forgot to bring enough water with them to put out the blaze. The barracks burned to the ground and the soldiers who had been staying there lost everything they had, including even a change of clean uniforms. The Soldier's Angels have been organizing a drive for these men and women, as well, sending stuff like personal care items, (razers and wet wipes are highly prized), along with any kind of snack foods. They are even sending stuff like ipods and video games.

The Army is giving them second hand uniforms from those who washed out of basic training. This last reminds me of stories about the Civil War where Confederate soldiers would go through and remove the boots of the dead Union soldiers because the Confederate Army couldn't provide its men with shoes. No fire fighting equipment? Hand me down uniforms? Civilian fund drives to replace destroyed personal items? We support our troops? (sigh)

[Tonchi]

The Halliburton contract apparently is using up the entire budget for that sort of "support"

You mean Halliburten is supposed to provide some service or support? I thought Cheney gives the money to Halliburten and they deposit it in his off shore bank account for him You want Halliburten to provide support services to the troops in addition? Don't you think that's pushing it a little, Tonchi?

[Tonchi]

Was it Halliburton who was providing the tainted water to the troups in Iraq as well? No, I never did expect they were doing much of anything except cashing the checks from those sweetheart contracts from the White House. Apparently they are spending a large proportion of the money to provide security for THEMSELVES, however, because we don't hear much about Halliburton employees being kidnapped, killed, or even threatened after that first time.

I have heard at least one too many times, if one does not support the invasion = one does not support the soldiers.

Dr Joseph Goebbels propaganda 101

I have heard it is the American citizens who appose the war which is having a negative effect on the moral of the soldiers.

Wrong wrong wrong, if you have any respect for George Washington.

He said the morale of our nation's troops is based on the way we treat our veterans.

Who is responsible for the care of the care of the vet? Citizens who appose the war orrrrrr…..

(WASHINGTON, D.C.) The Republican majority in the U.S. Senate today turned their backs on the needs of Americas veterans as they voted to defeat an amendment by Senator Patty Murray (D-Wash.) and Senator Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii) that would have increased funding for veterans health care by $2.85 billion just three percent over last years funding levels. The Murray Amendment was defeated 47-53 in a setback for new and existing veterans throughout the country.

Murray's Plan Offered Real Help for Veterans

Reject the Presidents proposal to cut funding to State veterans homes

Eliminate the means-test for veterans to enroll for VA care

Provide for much-needed mental health services

Reject the Presidents proposal to drive veterans away from the VA with annual user fees and increased prescription drug costs.

http://murray.senate.gov/news.cfm?id=233759

Halliburton was expecting a huge slice of the pie, Iraqi oil. Did not go as planed, they did not get to steal much. Oil that is, cash they stole well. Tax-free.

Those four “contractors “ who were killed, burnt and hung were Halliburton thugs, mercenaries, Blackwater.

The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional as to how they perceive the Veterans of earlier wars were treated and appreciated by their country." George Washington

[xoxoxoBruce]

I got a news letter with a thank you note, dated Feb 13th, from Bob Calvert.
"Thank you for helping our soldiers. I took 101 big bags filled last week and I have 14 more this week."
He also sent along a bunch of receipts from "King Sooper" market showing the type of stuff he was buying.
One made me laugh. It had several cans of cat food, no more than 2 of each flavor, the cashier had to back out at the end of the tape. Cats don't care if your saving the world from aliens, supper will be served in a timely fashion.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I got a news letter with a thank you note, dated Feb 13th, from Bob Calvert.
"Thank you for helping our soldiers. I took 101 big bags filled last week and I have 14 more this week."
He also sent along a bunch of receipts from "King Sooper" market showing the type of stuff he was buying.
One made me laugh. It had several cans of cat food, no more than 2 of each flavor, the cashier had to back out at the end of the tape. Cats don't care if your saving the world from aliens, supper will be served in a timely fashion.

Cool, Bruce! I'm glad Bob followed up and sent you copies of the receipts, cat food and all! There was an article in the local paper about the welcome home for the 3rd ACR. If I can find it, I'll post a link!