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People with major depression CANNOT just take a cold shower, walk around the block, do a good deed, and get over it. They can and will do all of the above - and Robin Williams is the quintessential example of a person who went far beyond that in carrying on, and in giving to others - but it doesn't touch the darkness that makes it impossible to go on. Read William Styron's Darkness Visible. His description of suicidal depression captures its essence. The online blog Hyperbole and a Half: Adventures in Depression and Depression Part Two are also instructive.
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Maybe our definition of poor is different. The poor I'm thinking of don't have computers. They are not online.
Anyone with time in their day to dwell on how painful just living is, has too much of it. Just getting on with it is the cure. It's when you check out of normal survival activities that you are considered depressed. There are varying degrees of course. I've been very sad for extended time in my life.... I always got to work and supported my family though, so I would not say I was actually depressed.
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It's not being sad. It's a chemical imbalance in the brain.
Depressed people can't just "get on with it". You won't recognize it and identify it in people. If you've not had it, it's very hard to really understand what it is. I knew a ghetto dweller whose doctors had him on anti-depressants until he became very obese and had to use a wheelchair. But when they took him off the drugs, he was suicidal. They decided staying on them was the best course of action. |
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Yeah yeah, chances of defeating depression without medical help are slim to none. But the everyday problems that pile up as a result of the imbalance, you can work on. Force yourself to empty the litter box, take a shower, walk twice around the yard. These will feel like you climbed the Matterhorn, probably in difficulty, and definitely warm and fuzzy.
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Christopher Reeve broke his neck in 1995, but lived another nine years with tons of medical attention and around the clock care. I couldn't even begin to figure what that cost.
Robin Williams paid it.
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Well, Lauren Bacall also passed away today. It just fits into this thread. She was like 89. She had a good life.
Not a huge shock like Robin, but she deserves to be noticed. |
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I agree; just saw that.
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How many disorders fit under the label of 'depression'?
Bipolar disorder and actual chemical imbalances.... They go beyond what I think of as depression. I guess that's wrong.
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Well ... what do you think of as depression? I can understand someone thinking that depression is a reaction to harsh life circumstances - that's reactive or situational depression, also known as exogenous depression.
Endogenous depression is the killer. It's the one that comes on with no identifiable cause, and it devastates lives. You're not wrong, it just that it's a complex beast.
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