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Old 01-18-2019, 07:40 PM   #1
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A threat to American borders only exists in bad fiction promoted to and by the least educated. Hate says immigrants are evil. Even though immigrants are a greatest source of new American companies and technologies. America needs something like 2 million employees just to bring in the crops. So only (somewhere around) 50,000 work visas are issued.

They come, work, and once went back home. Now they must stay and work here. Then hate of hard working people is easily promoted by one who says he also wants to 'wreck shit'. No wonder he worships The Donald.
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Old 01-18-2019, 07:51 PM   #2
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'bout the only person I feel hate for, at the moment, goes by the moniker of 'tw'

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Old 01-20-2019, 09:23 AM   #3
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henry quirk will put anyone on his enemies list. Nixon was more moral. You had to work hard to get on his enemies list.
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Old 01-21-2019, 08:57 AM   #4
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Only person, in this place, who's my enemy: tw...

...cuz he's a commie bastid.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:43 AM   #5
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...cuz he's a commie bastid.
So Nixon is a commie bastard. "Insults are us" - which is different from the good people called the US.
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Old 01-21-2019, 01:38 PM   #6
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"So Nixon is a commie bastard."

Are you Nixon?

No.

You're 'tw' (commie bastid).

Don't feel bad: I'm an anarchistic bastid.

You're at the 'sew everyone together' side and I'm way the hell over on the 'get the hell away from me' side.

We're monsters, you and me, with most of the other (human) cellarites meanderin' over the middle ground between us.

Hate it as you must: you and me are more alike than different.

You're my (hated, absolutely wrong about every damn thing) brother.

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Old 01-21-2019, 02:13 PM   #7
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We're monsters, you and me...
The two o' yas are British chicks with purple lips???



I think I poked three people with one stick, there.



In fun ppl, in fun.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:00 PM   #8
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Goya (and DJT) on madness:
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:02 AM   #9
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She seems successful as a reaction to Tea Party politics at the Federal level which has exposed individuals to predation by connected people and corporations.


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Old 01-25-2019, 11:54 AM   #10
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"you can whittle him down to basically a good government type."

I disagree.

addendum: on second thought, you're right, he is a 'good government type'. It's simply that his notion of 'good government' (large, centralized, and in charge) conflicts with my notion of 'good government' (minimal, dispersed, and firmly under heel).

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"the right wingers blew it by over-playing their hand."

As I see it: both sides (of the coin) have overplayed their hand (and continue to).

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Old 01-25-2019, 11:59 AM   #11
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"I'm trying to understand your position on those things"

Yeah, I'm a kind of minarchist, Bruce. I've written about it, debated about it (with Happy Monkey, for one) several times, in-forum.

Where were you?
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Old 01-25-2019, 03:10 PM   #12
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"I'm trying to understand your position on those things"

Yeah, I'm a kind of minarchist, Bruce. I've written about it, debated about it (with Happy Monkey, for one) several times, in-forum.

Where were you?
I was in the peanut gallery watching a reasonable discussion of opposing views, unlike you and tw throwing Molotov cocktails.
They only way to do the things I mentioned is on a federal level. There are many others that can only be done efficiently on a federal level.

Yeah yeah I know, efficient doesn't come to mind when thinking about federal projects but neither does the state or local projects. There's politics, kick backs, and greed involved... always. It adds to the cost but the results are still worth it for the most part. And those vices could be at least reduced if the voters actively held the politicians accountable.

OK, maybe it's a pipe dream that fat and happy citizens would actually get involved, but there's no question it can/would work if people would stop letting other people run the show.
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Old 01-25-2019, 03:19 PM   #13
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Bruce,

As I say: I'm an advocate for the 'night watchman' model.
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Old 01-25-2019, 03:27 PM   #14
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OK, just wanted it clarified for my little pumpkin head.
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Old 01-25-2019, 12:03 PM   #15
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"Reality is 'extremists verses moderates'"

No, reality is 'the mob (and its directors)' vs 'the one (and his conscience)'.
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