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Old 09-22-2006, 06:17 PM   #1
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Where do those of us who weren't around in Communism's terrible reign of unimaginable cruelty go to find information which will identify tw as the "hammer & sickle painted on his barn" commie you imply he is? Somehow all my schooling thus far has glossed over this crucial information.
Jeb, you could do what I did and read the guy's posts. Note the anti-Americanism (and not much of a hop to anti-democracy as well), the whole "America's cause deserved to lose in Vietnam" spin, and the perennial undermining of American motivation to win out against anti-democracy enemies. Note that his political ire is reserved for the most firmly anticommunist of the major political parties: the Soviets and Chicoms learned decades ago that they can deal more profitably with the Democrats than the Republicans (and my, how often they profited). All this humbug is exactly what the Sovs pushed on the world for decades. This is where tw's thinking is stuck, and he won't or can't evolve to enlightenment. Thinking as he does, tw cannot be a real democrat. He can run a fraud, and he can try and pull the wool over your eyes. Unlike me, he has no will to win out against the antihuman forces of anti-democracy. Considering how much genocide the antidemocracies have stacked up, one wonders at his rationales, and one imagines the very worst of his motivations.

Monkey, I understand communism better than you do. If you understood it as I do, you'd sound a lot more like me.
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Old 09-22-2006, 06:30 PM   #2
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Jeb, you could do what I did and read the guy's posts. Note the anti-Americanism (and not much of a hop to anti-democracy as well), the whole "America's cause deserved to lose in Vietnam" spin, and the perennial undermining of American motivation to win out against anti-democracy enemies. Note that his political ire is reserved for the most firmly anticommunist of the major political parties: the Soviets and Chicoms learned decades ago that they can deal more profitably with the Democrats than the Republicans (and my, how often they profited). All this humbug is exactly what the Sovs pushed on the world for decades. This is where tw's thinking is stuck, and he won't or can't evolve to enlightenment. Thinking as he does, tw cannot be a real democrat. He can run a fraud, and he can try and pull the wool over your eyes. Unlike me, he has no will to win out against the antihuman forces of anti-democracy. Considering how much genocide the antidemocracies have stacked up, one wonders at his rationales, and one imagines the very worst of his motivations.

Monkey, I understand communism better than you do. If you understood it as I do, you'd sound a lot more like me.

And that is probably one of the slipperyest slippery slopes ive ever seen.


He disagrees with america sometimes! America is a democracy, so he's against democracy!

He doesnt like Republicans! Hey, nor do most commies! He's a commie!

He thinks the us shouldnt have gone into Nam! Communists agree! He's a commie!

He disagrees with me! He must hate democracy, because I love democracy (as long as it's a democratically elected government thats far right-wing and archaic)!
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Old 09-22-2006, 06:30 PM   #3
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Monkey, I understand communism better than you do. If you understood it as I do, you'd sound a lot more like me.
If I understood it as you do, I would be completely incoherent. I'm glad I understand it as I do.
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Old 09-22-2006, 06:40 PM   #4
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LOL. I've been on the planet half a century. There's no shame in being guided by those more experienced.
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Old 09-22-2006, 06:44 PM   #5
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Ibbie, perhaps if you showed me ONE instance where tw was caught endorsing American policy, rather than trying to make me the issue -- you can't bait me in that direction -- you might have a better argument here. I'll for now avoid simply saying an argument, full stop.

Meanwhile, if it duckspeaks like an Orwellian commie duck, it's still an utka.
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Old 09-23-2006, 10:58 AM   #6
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LOL. I've been on the planet half a century. There's no shame in being guided by those more experienced.
If you want to be a guide, you'll need more on your resume than calling people commies and being middle aged.
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Ibbie, perhaps if you showed me ONE instance where tw was caught endorsing American policy
If the world is divided into supporters of US foreign policy and commies, then the commies have won already, and Bush is their biggest recruiter.
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Old 09-24-2006, 03:26 PM   #7
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UG's rants on Commies sort of reminds me of the dilemma of the average German in 1930's after being approached by a brownshirt.

Brownshirt: We're going to beat up some Commies, join us.
Citizen: Uh, no.
Brownshirt: You don't want to join us?
Citizen: No
Brownshirt: Ok, then, if you're not with us you must be with the Commies. Let's get him brothers!

Not being a Fascist doesn't make one a Communist and vice versa.
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Old 09-22-2006, 07:05 PM   #8
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Show me one instance where I'VE endorsed (recent) American policy? I loathe what America has become. Am I a commie too, now?
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Old 09-22-2006, 10:20 PM   #9
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Oow, oow....can I be a commie too.
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:02 PM   #10
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So is UG, Joe McCarthy's reincarnate or long lost son?
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