Women please vote - Page 4

lumberjim · 10-26-2006, 11:51 AM

this is flint flinging poo. let it go , SG. he's just baiting you.

lumberjim · 10-26-2006, 11:52 AM

in fact, Flint your new user title: Occasionally Flings Poo

Flint · 10-26-2006, 03:31 PM

"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?" Sheik Taj Aldin al-Hilali

Iggy · 10-28-2006, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?" Sheik Taj Aldin al-Hilali

What a raging ass-hat. (Sheik Taj Aldin al-Hilali, not flint)

Carry on.

Aliantha · 10-26-2006, 05:41 PM

Comments like these are exactly why date rape cases are not reported to police.

Flint · 10-26-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Comments like these are exactly why date rape cases are not reported to police.

That's more than a mere "comment"- that's a sermon to over 500 people! Yay religion!

JayMcGee · 10-26-2006, 06:01 PM

this is what comes from giving women the vote.......

lumberjim · 10-26-2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee

this is what comes from giving women the vote.......

aw, cmon. that was some funny shit!

Aliantha · 10-26-2006, 06:03 PM

arsehole

JayMcGee · 10-26-2006, 06:05 PM

ah.. now you're talking.......

Aliantha · 10-26-2006, 06:14 PM

I'm wondering if anyone is surprised by the results of this poll? Personally I'm not because I've done a fair amount of research in the area as you probably would all have guessed by now.

It's incredibly astounding to me that when over half the women who have voted on this poll have either been raped or narrowly avoided it, some people can still find the time to make jokes.

That is my point. This is not an issue that affects a few people. It affects over 25% of the population. That's a fairly huge wack wouldn't you say?

Flint · 10-26-2006, 06:24 PM

"Perhaps this is why it is man alone who laughs: he alone suffers so deeply that he had to invent laughter." - Friedrich Nietzsche

xoxoxoBruce · 10-26-2006, 10:02 PM

I would imagine the newspaper reporters only asked men for their reaction to the law, or at least lumped them into a section of male reaction. That's because most people think of women victims when rape is mentioned.
That's unfortunate, as rape is not exclusively a male on female crime. Many boys are raped and men in prison know the problem well.

Flint · 10-27-2006, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I would imagine the newspaper reporters only asked men for their reaction to the law, or at least lumped them into a section of male reaction.

My problem with this sentence:

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Some men claim that the reforms will place an impossible burden on them to show that the woman agreed to sex if she had had a few drinks beforehand.

...is that it should have been written like this:

Some claim that the reforms will place an impossible burden on men to show that the woman agreed to sex if she had had a few drinks beforehand.

Otherwise it implies that men, exclusively, object to this law - which is inaccurate and inflamatory.
I don't think a professional journalist could be this naive about semantics. If they are, it's just incompetence.
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@Aliantha: Sorry, if I hijacked your thread. These were a couple of current news items I thought were worthy of discussion.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-27-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Otherwise it implies that men, exclusively, object to this law - which is inaccurate and inflamatory.

No, it just means that's the strongest negative reaction they could find and who it came from.
You don't think they got a negative reaction from women, do you? The law isn't to protect women from dogs, or men from women, it's clearly women from men.

View Poll Results: Have you been a victim of rape?
Yes - violent	2	6.45%
Yes - date	11	35.48%
No, but I was lucky to avoid it	4	12.90%
No never	14	45.16%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

10-26-2006, 11:51 AM	#1
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	this is flint flinging poo. let it go , SG. he's just baiting you. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

10-26-2006, 11:52 AM	#2
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	in fact, Flint your new user title: Occasionally Flings Poo __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

10-26-2006, 03:31 PM	#3
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	did y'all hear about this one? "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?" Sheik Taj Aldin al-Hilali __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

10-26-2006, 05:41 PM	#5
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Comments like these are exactly why date rape cases are not reported to police. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-26-2006, 06:01 PM	#7
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	this is what comes from giving women the vote....... __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

10-26-2006, 06:03 PM	#9
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	arsehole __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-26-2006, 06:05 PM	#10
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	ah.. now you're talking....... __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

10-26-2006, 06:14 PM	#11
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I'm wondering if anyone is surprised by the results of this poll? Personally I'm not because I've done a fair amount of research in the area as you probably would all have guessed by now. It's incredibly astounding to me that when over half the women who have voted on this poll have either been raped or narrowly avoided it, some people can still find the time to make jokes. That is my point. This is not an issue that affects a few people. It affects over 25% of the population. That's a fairly huge wack wouldn't you say? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-26-2006, 06:24 PM	#12
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	"Perhaps this is why it is man alone who laughs: he alone suffers so deeply that he had to invent laughter." - Friedrich Nietzsche __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

10-26-2006, 10:02 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I would imagine the newspaper reporters only asked men for their reaction to the law, or at least lumped them into a section of male reaction. That's because most people think of women victims when rape is mentioned. That's unfortunate, as rape is not exclusively a male on female crime. Many boys are raped and men in prison know the problem well. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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