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Old 11-03-2006, 06:16 PM   #1
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Why should I "respect" religion? Any religion?
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:42 PM   #2
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Why should I "respect" religion? Any religion?
Because some of them will cut your head off, if you don't.
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:20 PM   #3
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That is a good question.
I may not respect a religion, but one may want to try not to intentionally offend its followers unnecessarily.
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:31 PM   #4
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but one may want to try not to intentionally offend its followers unnecessarily.
I can't say if the original intent was to offend. I think it was to be ironic. And "Holy Jesus" is fairly common in vernacular ussage. I usually hold my tongue. When I didn't as a kid, my mom litterally put soap in my mouth. Maybe THAT is why I'm an atheist.
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:39 PM   #5
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I did not say you did... just my criteria. I'm not always very good at it.
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:44 PM   #6
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I was responding to the "Why not be blasphemous" (or however it went) post, not directly to the title of the thread.

I'm not talking about respecting religion, but respecting people. I'll shut up now, because it's clear that my point will not be acknowledged for what it is.

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Old 11-03-2006, 10:46 PM   #7
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...because it's clear that my point will not be acknowledged for what it is...
I've noticed, in several of your posts, that you attribute people not agreeing with you to them not understanding or acknowledging your point.

You have to admit, sometimes people just disagree.
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:48 PM   #8
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It's OK mr. noodle. I'll acknowlege your point.

I kinda love everybody right now...don't know why...just a feeling.
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:55 PM   #9
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I kinda love everybody right now...don't know why...just a feeling.
Me too, could be the booze though. I'm very gay for the cellar tonight.
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Old 11-03-2006, 06:54 PM   #10
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I don't think there is such a thing as blasphemy.
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:35 PM   #11
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That's exactly the problem. you cast aspersions on billions of people because of what one asshole did.
No, I don't. I understand that you'll always take it that way, but that doesn't change what I mean. I don't hold Christianity as beyond criticism, where it is deserved. That's what I would have to do in order to satisfy your conditions that nothing bad ever be said about Christianity under any circumstance whatsoever. I'm not gonna play that game. Sorry.
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:51 PM   #12
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No, I don't. I understand that you'll always take it that way, but that doesn't change what I mean. I don't hold Christianity as beyond criticism, where it is deserved. That's what I would have to do in order to satisfy your conditions that nothing bad ever be said about Christianity under any circumstance whatsoever. I'm not gonna play that game. Sorry.
What you do is blame Christianity for the actions of individual people or religions. If you have a problem with some part (or all of) the Roman Catholic Religion, you say Christianity. Same with the Baptist Religion, or Lutheran, et al. That's not right. When you say Christian or Christianity that includes(unfairly) everyone.
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:39 PM   #13
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Institutions can't act, only people. By saying that "Christians do blah blah blah", you include me, an individual Christian, in your statement.
Same as above goes for you. Deal with it. You choose to be part of a diverse group, and label yoruself with that group affiliation. Not my fault.

Edit: By the way, you'll notice I never said "Christians do blah blah blah" - I said Christianity. The Institution. To clarify your misunderstanding.
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Old 11-03-2006, 10:50 PM   #14
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I'm with Flint about the INSTITUTION of Christianity not being christianity, or christians, or anything, in the same way that the White House is not America.
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:27 AM   #15
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I'm with Flint about the INSTITUTION of Christianity not being christianity, or christians, or anything, in the same way that the White House is not America.

Not an original idea. He's posted that thought probably 500 times as have so many others. Just because others arn't stating the obvious dosn't make them oblivious to that redundant truth.
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