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BigV · 11-14-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

The Commandment proscribes wrongful killing, Jay. Even people who aren't Bible scholars know about that.

How very reactionary of you, UG. I read it. The word "wrongful" doesn't appear in my list of commandments. It's just not there. You can use it as an excuse to kill, as I suspect you must and you may, but you're just making (more) shit up. As usual.

As to wrongfulness, who's to judge? You're waaaay overdue for a plank-check, brother.

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-17-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

How very reactionary of you, UG. I read it. The word "wrongful" doesn't appear in my list of commandments. It's just not there. You can use it as an excuse to kill, as I suspect you must and you may, but you're just making (more) shit up. As usual.

As to wrongfulness, who's to judge? You're waaaay overdue for a plank-check, brother.

The correct translation, V, is You shall do no murder. Wrongful killing. It does not proscribe rightful killing. No wonder you argue with me -- you are valiant in your ignorance.

I, on the other hand, choose to know something whereof I speak.

11-14-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

The Commandment proscribes wrongful killing, Jay. Even people who aren't Bible scholars know about that.

Biblical scholars know the wording is actually "murder". "Kill" is a mistranslation.

Aliantha · 11-14-2006, 01:39 AM

I'm speechless really. That's why I'm typing instead. I cannot understand the pathetic excuses and justifications some people here have for killing other people.

Murder is wrong full stop! Period! The end! Finito! There's nothing more to add!!!

xoxoxoBruce · 11-15-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Murder is wrong full stop!

Why?

JayMcGee · 11-14-2006, 07:02 PM

mmm.... these would be christian biblical scholars?

Aliantha · 11-15-2006, 08:11 PM

Because no one has the right to life or death over another person.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-15-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Because no one has the right to life or death over another person.

But who made that rule? What makes you state that as an absolute and not your opinion?

Flint · 11-16-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Because no one has the right to life or death over another person.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

But who made that rule? What makes you state that as an absolute and not your opinion?

Not everybody shares this opinion/follows this rule. Those who don't, are called "murderers" . . .

xoxoxoBruce · 11-17-2006, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Not everybody shares this opinion/follows this rule. Those who don't, are called "murderers" . . .

By those that do. Conversely those that don't share that opinion/follow that rule, call those that do, something else.

Two opposing positions calling each other names, now what? Majority rules? Mob rules? Reason rules?

Nobody can seem to tell me why their side is right other than claimimg moral high ground or being more rational.

Why is it bad to kill a human being?

Flint · 11-17-2006, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Two opposing positions calling each other names, now what?

The murderers vs. the non-murderers? Should I be worried about you?

wolf · 11-18-2006, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Because no one has the right to life or death over another person.

So you're anti-abortion, then?

11-15-2006, 08:23 PM

You will want to avoid the thread about the kid that got raped... lot of unrepentant blood-lust in there too. Sounds like the eighteenth century.

Aliantha · 11-15-2006, 08:52 PM

Well, here's something I'll share with you, and you can call me a hypocrite if you like when I'm done.

If anyone laid a hand on my kids, I'd kill them myself. Does that mean I've changed my mind or have double standards? Nope. I fully realize that what I'd be doing is wrong, and I'd pay the consequences for my actions willingly, and if there is a God, he'll be the one to judge me when the time comes, otherwise, I'll just have to come back again and learn the lesson I missed this time round.

No one touches my kids and that's about all there is to it.

glatt · 11-15-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Well, here's something I'll share with you, and you can call me a hypocrite if you like when I'm done.

If anyone laid a hand on my kids, I'd kill them myself.

Me too. And that makes sense. When it's your own kid, your opinions are based on your emotions, which are naturally strong when dealing with your flesh and blood. When you discuss public policy in general, you are able to let your brain do the work. It's the difference between mob mentality and rule of law.

11-14-2006, 01:39 AM	#4
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I'm speechless really. That's why I'm typing instead. I cannot understand the pathetic excuses and justifications some people here have for killing other people. Murder is wrong full stop! Period! The end! Finito! There's nothing more to add!!! __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-14-2006, 07:02 PM	#6
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	mmm.... these would be christian biblical scholars? __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

11-15-2006, 08:11 PM	#7
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Because no one has the right to life or death over another person. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-15-2006, 08:52 PM	#14
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Well, here's something I'll share with you, and you can call me a hypocrite if you like when I'm done. If anyone laid a hand on my kids, I'd kill them myself. Does that mean I've changed my mind or have double standards? Nope. I fully realize that what I'd be doing is wrong, and I'd pay the consequences for my actions willingly, and if there is a God, he'll be the one to judge me when the time comes, otherwise, I'll just have to come back again and learn the lesson I missed this time round. No one touches my kids and that's about all there is to it. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-15-2006, 08:23 PM	#13
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	You will want to avoid the thread about the kid that got raped... lot of unrepentant blood-lust in there too. Sounds like the eighteenth century.

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