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If my family was starving in Mexico and I had to come to the US illegally to not see them starve, I would. It is a conflict of interests, not a good versus evil situation. Quote:
Also, I am sure many Mexicans do not want to join American culture but you can find that with almost every immigrant group. I've been in other highly immigrant influenced areas and they feel like a totally different country and it also seems that they also have no desire to become Americans as well. There is no Mexican conspiracy to take advantage of Americans, the majority just want to feed their kids since there are no jobs in Mexico which creates a huge conflict of interests. |
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
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The American Medical Association to the Committee on Public Works and Transportation, U.S. House of Representatives; Los Angeles Times; Washington Post; Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons are hardly right-wing sources.
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I don't see your links to the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post. I have a feeling I've seen the ones you're talking about, though. Post 'em so I can see if they're the ones I'm thinking of. What is 'The American Medical Association to the Committee on Public Works and Transportation?' The only place I see that is here: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...suecenters64bf and that site is about as biased as you can get. I did--the IRS. |
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Of the groups of immigrants that came legally, the non-criminals, most made every effort to become Americans, become part in the social and political fabric. Even when the settled in areas with people from their home area of the world, they made sure their kids learned English, recited the Pledge of Allegiance with pride and flew the American flag. It's after assimilating for generations, the spawn of these immigrants put foreign flag decals on their cars. Their forefathers are doing 78 rpm in their graves. Quote:
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We all know there are not enough jobs in Mexico. Not even service sector because they are being served here. I posted before of the Smithsonian article about the Mexican millionaire from NJ, that went back to build 5 clothing factories, each to employ 2500 people. After the first factory was built, the rest were canceled, because he could not find 500 employees. The people he went to help were all here instead of building a decent place to live at home. If Mexico was stuck in the middle of the ocean, they would probably have a decent economy going, from all those hard working people without an easier out.
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Exactly what standard of proof are you looking for here?
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I think I have an argument for illegal immigration that's difficult to refute, but I'm hesitant to let the left have it. Nah ... they won't use it anyway.
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You fucking tease...out with it.
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lobber of scimitars
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"God Said So."
The Jews were the first illegal immigrants. God told them there was a land of milk and honey over there that way, go kill or force out everybody living there now, and it's yours.
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What 'actual' research? The materials quoted from the Journal of the American Physicians and Surgeons are rife with alarmist, extremist opinion, language, and conjecture. The sources are shaky at best. Anyone can write a commentary piece with made-up numbers, and put official-seeming footnotes in it. And then the footnotes turn out to be from the Op-Ed section of whatever newspaper they're sourcing, or from another website with the same extremist political agenda and twisted 'facts.'
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I don't think you answered the question Blue, what you are saying could be true of virtually any cite.
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No, what I said is not true of virtually any cite. That's why footnotes are usually seen as authoritative and fact-based--they're supposed to be, when they're supporting the credibility of written work.
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That I know it for a fact makes it a untrue. |
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Know what for a fact?
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They do not pay taxes.
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