SC proposes to cut funding for the disabled - Page 4

Bluesky · 03-10-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

ASIDE
I'd like to point out Bluesky's Reaction to being misunderstood is commendable.
Instead of getting all pissy and personal, Bluesky further clarified his/her question/point.
Well played.

Thanks xoxoxoBruce, but I just don't know anyone here well enough to get pissy yet.

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Originally Posted by SamIam

Sorry, sometimes I have mild brain blips. I didn't understand what you were asking. My understanding is that Colorado wil look at the big picture as long as your addiction occurred after you became disabled. They will treat people for dual diagnosis.

So SamIam, a teen does various drugs, turns 19 or 20 and that being a ripe age for schizophrenia, is seen as a drug addict with a secondary of schiz rather than a schiz with a secondary of drugs?

I like the system that looks at the bigger picture and sees that schizophrenia IS a physical brain disease not related to the drug use. And considers that young person disabled even though there was drug use from earlier in life. Would Colorado actually refuse to call someone like that disabled because of drug use before being diagnosed with schizophrenia?

I'm not even sure a meth addict shouldn't be considered mentally ill after enough brain tissue is destroyed. It's not growing back and even if that meth user gets clean, their brain may still be like swiss cheese causing disability.

I can support not giving out monies to someone while they are still using since that does not help solve their illness and often makes it much worse. Although what I've seen in Cali is that the mentally ill get disability, it's given out for 'board and care' and the person gets maybe $20-50 a month spending money and all the rest is given to a care home. (If the person is not hospitalized).

Not that it stops the drug use. Stealing and prostitution add to the money used for drug use.

TheMercenary · 03-09-2010, 11:38 AM

I think if you should get a clean drug screen to get any kind of handout, other than treatment.

classicman · 03-09-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I think if you should get a clean drug screen to get any kind of handout, other than treatment.

What? How can you say that? Thats way too invasive on their privacy.

Shawnee123 · 03-09-2010, 02:48 PM

Will that drug screen include alcohol?

Spexxvet · 03-09-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Will that drug screen include alcohol?

Or caffiene or sugar?

SamIam · 03-09-2010, 03:02 PM

What about weed? That would let out about half the people here.

TheMercenary · 03-09-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Or caffiene or sugar?

Check the laws idiot. Caffeine, and sugar are legal, as is ETOH, in the appropriate levels.

Maybe you Socialists want to make caffeine and sugar illegal too.

wolf · 03-10-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I think if you should get a clean drug screen to get any kind of handout, other than treatment.

That's on my wishlist.

As is being able to kick out jackasses who are faking suicidality either to get drug or alcohol treatment or three hots and a cot (which usually amounts to the same thing, since very few people I see are truly motivated for D&A treatment ... they demand it, get it, and are usually doing it to placate their probation officer or have mom let them back in the house just one more time.

TheMercenary · 03-11-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

That's on my wishlist.

As is being able to kick out jackasses who are faking suicidality either to get drug or alcohol treatment or three hots and a cot (which usually amounts to the same thing, since very few people I see are truly motivated for D&A treatment ... they demand it, get it, and are usually doing it to placate their probation officer or have mom let them back in the house just one more time.

I know. It is just a dream, nothing like that will required by this new administration. Hell, any administration. The ACLU would have a whole new way to make money on that one.

Shawnee123 · 03-09-2010, 03:01 PM

Or Big Macs, Tacos, Cheese Curds (heart disease, obesity...)?

Spexxvet · 03-09-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Or Big Macs, Tacos, Cheese Curds (heart disease, obesity...)?

MMMMmmmm Cheese curds.

Shawnee123 · 03-09-2010, 03:10 PM

Hahahhaa...I just like saying 'cheese curds.'

I mean, it sounds really gross...I get fatter just thinking about them.

classicman · 03-09-2010, 03:14 PM

or or or . . . damn I can't think of anything else

ohhh wait - nicotine?

Shawnee123 · 03-09-2010, 03:21 PM

Well then I'M screwed too.

Pie · 03-09-2010, 04:07 PM

I hear water can be bad for you, in large doses.

03-09-2010, 02:48 PM	#4
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Will that drug screen include alcohol? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-09-2010, 03:01 PM	#10
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Or Big Macs, Tacos, Cheese Curds (heart disease, obesity...)? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-09-2010, 03:10 PM	#12
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Hahahhaa...I just like saying 'cheese curds.' I mean, it sounds really gross...I get fatter just thinking about them. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-09-2010, 03:14 PM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	or or or . . . damn I can't think of anything else ohhh wait - nicotine? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-09-2010, 03:21 PM	#14
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Well then I'M screwed too. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-09-2010, 11:38 AM	#2
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I think if you should get a clean drug screen to get any kind of handout, other than treatment.

03-09-2010, 03:02 PM	#6
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	What about weed? That would let out about half the people here.

03-09-2010, 04:07 PM	#15
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	I hear water can be bad for you, in large doses. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

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