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Old 06-03-2010, 08:20 PM   #1
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Great. Thanks. But when I throw out more soup than you eat it reduces my motivation to make more.

Telling the truth doesn't mean people are always going to be happy with what you say, it just means you have integrity and can be trusted.
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:51 PM   #2
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Telling the truth doesn't mean people are always going to be happy with what you say, it just means you have integrity and can be trusted.
But sometimes it is just safer to not tell the "whole" truth about many things.
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:56 PM   #3
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What you are trading for that safety is not insignificant.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:04 PM   #4
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But you may be protecting something that is quite significant, hence it is a safe move in and of itself.
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Old 06-03-2010, 10:54 PM   #5
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Tact. Respect.

Yep!
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:54 PM   #6
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A friend of mine's mother is the queen of always making people feel good yet never, ever lying. Ever.

If you show her the living room you just redecorated in puke green, she will say, "Oh, you can really see how much work you've put into it! It will be so wonderful for you in the afternoons, with the sun shining in. I can just picture you reading in your chair, so cozy!"

Personally, I've found that people very rarely actually ask for an opinion on things anyway, and most people only find themselves in tact-or-honesty situations because they feel compelled to comment one way or the other even if no one's asked their opinion. If you're at someone's house for dinner, and the food is shit, just find a time to thank them for inviting you over, or don't say anything. A chef who actually asks "What did you think of the meal?" is being a dick in their own right, putting the guest on the spot for an expected lie, and deserves what they get.
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Old 06-05-2010, 04:36 AM   #7
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If you're at someone's house for dinner, and the food is shit, just find a time to thank them for inviting you over, or don't say anything. A chef who actually asks "What did you think of the meal?" is being a dick in their own right, putting the guest on the spot for an expected lie, and deserves what they get.
I take inspiration from the blue soup scene in Bridget Jones's Diary for this kind of situation.
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Old 06-04-2010, 04:05 AM   #8
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I always tell the truth, except when I lie out of necessity; because, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:28 AM   #9
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I'm lying right now.
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Old 06-04-2010, 01:28 PM   #10
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I'm lying right now.

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Old 06-04-2010, 10:08 AM   #11
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All humans lie. It is natural.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:50 PM   #12
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I only feel obligated to tell the truth to people I care about, and then only if they want to know*. I don't owe it to anyone else.

*Usually, they just want validations of their own opinions.
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Old 06-04-2010, 01:21 PM   #13
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If you're ok with lying it must mean you're ok with being lied to.
Does that mean you trust everyone, or trust no one?
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:06 PM   #14
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If you're ok with lying it must mean you're ok with being lied to.
Does that mean you trust everyone, or trust no one?
I assume I'm always being lied to. I haven't been disappointed yet.

To put it in less stark terms, I assume I have no insight into other's real POV, motivations or standards. I (usually) will play along at whatever game they portray at any given moment.

I lost my trust when CP violation was proved.
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:01 PM   #15
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I assume I'm always being lied to. I haven't been disappointed yet.

To put it in less stark terms, I assume I have no insight into other's real POV, motivations or standards. I (usually) will play along at whatever game they portray at any given moment.

I lost my trust when CP violation was proved.
CP violation?

In general I trust people unless I'm given reason not too. I've been disappointed many times, but it's not even a conscious thing... It occurs to me that people are often incorrect, but I'm continuously surprised that they lie.

I'm talking about real lies here, not what you say to annoying cow orkers fishing for compliments about their retarded new haircut - I agree with you on that front. I mean unsolicited deception.
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