Why do White House support Taiwan joining the WHO

[xoxoxoBruce]

The USA is certainly not above the rhetoric.
But alas, rhetoric is not reality.

[Billy]

The China government announced that we use peaceful way to resolve this problem. We would attack Taiwan if the US, Japan or other countryarm inrade Taiwan. We hope the twoside people communicate and stregthen cooperate.

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by Billy
The China government announced that we use peaceful way to resolve this problem. We would attack Taiwan if the US, Japan or other countryarm inrade Taiwan. We hope the twoside people communicate and stregthen cooperate.

Well, you certainly don't have to worry about Japan. They were neutered after World War II.

If China wanted Taiwan back bad enough, they could have already taken it by now. This has been going on for over 50 years now. Of course, most of Taiwan's weapons were bought from the US.

[Billy]

About one month ago one Japan student who study in China say diry on China. He said in one radio that the Japan is one small country and China is large. Japanese should kill all the Chinese to have more resource. He thought they would invaded China again soon. Whole of China become angray at this.

Do you think we still let Japanese kill us?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Whole of China become angray at this.

And they have every right to be. Just don't forget, you're talking about one asshole running his mouth and not the people or country of Japan.

Do you think we still let Japanese kill us?

I think if Japan attacked China nobody would ever have to worry about the Japanese again. Ever!

[Billy]

We still worry about Japan. Some Japanese still like war.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Some Japanese still like war.

Well, I like young girls too, but that ain't going to happen either.
I can understand your distrust of the Japanese given their past history but I don't think they're stupid enough to attack China today.

[tw]

Originally posted by Billy
We still worry about Japan. Some Japanese still like war.

Rather silly to worry about Japan. Their military abilities are dominately defensive. Japan has no offensive military capacity.

However I would more worry about N Korea. Reasons for war include fear. North Korean military leadership fears invasion. They fear the world. They even fear letting their own people emmigrate.

I would worry about mainland China having attempted an invasion of VietNam, Kashmir, and Tibet. Having claimed that almost the entire South China sea up to the beaches of Viet Nam, Malaysia, and Philippines belongs to China. Having already fought a military battle on the Spratley Islands for possession of those islands located closest to Phillippines.

I would worry about the US under its current leadership that would advocate the invasion and occupation of another nation using lies about 'weapons of mass destruction' (WMD). Even US Assistant Secratary of Defense Wolfovich acknowledged today those WMD did not exist (lies that are now causing serious political problems for Tony Blair in UK). I would worry about a nation that has turned so militaristic in the past three years that its college kids openly advocate military actions as a solution to any world problem - a severe change from a pre-2001 USA. A nation that last was so militaristic when it unilaterally attacked N Viet Nam for same mythical reasons.

I would worry more about India and Pakistan whose governments are now dominated by the most conservative and militaristic leaders in generations AND who were but days from a nuclear exchange. Two countries that have so little fear of nuclear war as to openly advocate such an engagment with millions of troops already in the field of battle.

Where does Japan come any where near to being as dangerous as these other openly aggressive war powers? With so many antagonists, no wonder Japan must maintain such a strong defensive military. Japan is a far from being a threat to China is one has any post World War II historical knowledge AND knowledge of who has what weapons. To worry about Japan is to worry without first learning basic facts.

[Whit]

     Don't undersetimate the Japanese. They may not have an offense now, but I bet it wouldn't take them long to put one together if we let them. Remeber, that little country has kicked China's ass in the past. The Japanese don't do anything half-way.

[xoxoxoBruce]

When Japan invaded China last, it wasn't a country but loosely confederated groups. Now China is a nation of significant strength. The army and leadership are truly national and coordinated. Japans attack on China was a sneak attack as were their attacks on Korea, Russia and of course the USA. I don't see how they could possibly think they could be successful.

[elSicomoro]

Billy, I can understand why the Chinese are wary of the Japanese, given that they had a field day in Korea and China in the first half of the 20th century.

But surely you would not disagree with me on this: The Japanese have been a non-threat for over 50 years. They would have to alter their constitution (specifically Article 9) in order to go into serious attack mode.

Sure, some in Japan might like war. So do some in the US. And China. I would imagine there are quite a few people in your country that would like nothing more than to crush Taiwan like a bug. For that matter, I imagine many Chinese wanted Hong Kong and Macau back before 1997.

In the end, if a country really wants something, they'll go for it. And you'll probably see it building up before it happens. I'd say you're safe for now.

[Billy]

Like German, they say sorry to the world, but the Japanese Gorvernment still visit their war leaders. The action make the asian people feel sad. We cna forgive them but they don't say say sorry to us. Many Japanese still ignore the Second World War in their history. I don't hate Japanese, only to hate the war-lovers and bad Japan government.

[Billy]

I think that the S and N Korea would become one in the future. i don't know why the NK save so many weapon rather than bulid their economy. We still have a good relations with them. I think they are not a big problem for China, but we must resolve it ASAP. They hope to get many free money from the US.

[xoxoxoBruce]

i don't know why the NK save so many weapon rather than bulid their economy.

They are in the grip of bad people who are more worried about remaining in control than the starvation of their people.

[tw]

Originally posted by Billy
i don't know why the NK save so many weapon rather than bulid their economy.

NK is not saving weapons. They are an exporter of weapons. Something like 25% of their international income is from weapons exports. How to wean a nation off of weapons when that is but the few successful industry they have?

It will be difficult. But weaning them off of weapons exporting is what Carter started when he negotiated an agreement that led to South Korea's Sunshine policy.

Need a missile? If US and Britian will not sell them AND will deny anyone else an opportunity to make the sale? Then go to North Korea. They make good missiles and will sell to anyone.

Goes even farther. To be a world exporter of better weapons, North Korea and Pakistan executed a secret agreement of technology trade. If the US was more honest, then Pakistan would also be on George Jr's list called the 'Axis of Evil' - that includes Iran and Iraq.

North Korea is a major weapons manufacturer. Therefore is evil. Pakistan did even worse. Took the world to brink of nuclear war and shared nuclear weapons technology with N Korea. So why is North Korea considered so dangerous but Pakistan is a close US friend? Ironic.