I know this is just a bunch of terrible kids but... - Page 4

Gravdigr · 01-22-2019, 01:45 PM

"One" didn't refer to you, btw. Just ppl in general.

Griff · 01-22-2019, 02:11 PM

Yeah, I didn't think so but I also hadn't explicitly said I fucked up starting this thread.

Flint · 01-22-2019, 04:35 PM

All of us were wrong, and continue to be wrong.

Watch the video and determine for yourself what's happening. Don't read any articles, don't read any quotes, don't read any hot takes, corrections, correction-corrections, or correction-correction criticisms.

glatt · 01-22-2019, 05:15 PM

The video only shows what it shows.

sexobon · 01-22-2019, 10:19 PM

Heavens to Murgatroyd! Exit, stage left.

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Washington Post Issues Key Correction: Native Elder Nathan Phillips Did Not Serve in Vietnam

… Correction: Earlier versions of this story incorrectly said that Native American activist Nathan Phillips fought in the Vietnam War. Phillips served in the U.S. Marines from 1972 to 1976 but was never deployed to Vietnam.

During an interview with CNN, Phillips said he was a “Vietnam-times veteran,” with the accompanying chyron misquoting him as saying “I am a Vietnam veteran…”

xoxoxoBruce · 01-22-2019, 10:25 PM

Vietnam times Marine veteran sounds misleading.

Pico and ME · 01-23-2019, 11:56 AM

This article fully explains how I feel about this incident. Those boys and their school get no pass from me.

Diaphone Jim · 01-23-2019, 11:57 AM

I'm OK with the way this went down.
A bunch of guys (didn't see any women or girls) got in each other's faces and made their points.
In spite of insults and adrenaline, nobody threw a punch.
Free speech in the age of ubiquitous video cameras and "social" media.

tw · 01-24-2019, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim

In spite of insults and adrenaline, nobody threw a punch.

Another excellent, honest fact from an event where little that is conclusive can be obtained.

Happy Monkey · 01-23-2019, 01:58 PM

Joker face is white with red lips. And enlarging the mouth is in no way incompatible with minstrel show makeup.

Undertoad · 01-23-2019, 02:15 PM

Joker face is white and red... perhaps except on blackout day?

Happy Monkey · 01-24-2019, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Some people hate to be wrong and the hatery made it too obvious. So they fight to be right, up to the point of pathetic absurdity, and that is where we are.

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Joker face is white and red... perhaps except on blackout day?

Some people got stuck on the first impressions, and some got stuck on the second wave. I'm still not sure where I am on the kids. They were doing tomahawk chops, and Sandmann's own descriptions of his smile are a bit weird even (or maybe because it was) filtered through a PR firm, but I've certainly had my own expression misinterpreted.

Much of the "vindication" of the kids was over the revelation that Philips approached the kids, and not vice versa. But I don't remember "who approached who first" being a big part of the initial reaction. Even the initial video shows Philips walking forward until face to face with Sandmann. Maybe there was an implied assumption, though.

While additional information has muddied the waters with respect to Philips and the kids, it has done nothing to justify the chaperones allowing it to get to that point. If cultists are screaming abuse at a group of kids under your charge, get the kids away from there. There were five chaperones, so they could have left one there to direct any groups arriving later.

tw · 01-24-2019, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

There were five chaperones, so they could have left one there to direct any groups arriving later.

Another astute hypothesis. Is there any indication that those chaperons did nothing or did try to defuse the confrontation? Especially if they (so it says) "gave permission to chant".

Happy Monkey · 01-23-2019, 02:25 PM

No, on blackout day, it's black and black.

Flint · 01-23-2019, 03:50 PM

are we really doing this

01-22-2019, 01:45 PM	#1
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01-22-2019, 02:11 PM	#2
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Yeah, I didn't think so but I also hadn't explicitly said I fucked up starting this thread. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-22-2019, 04:35 PM	#3
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	All of us were wrong, and continue to be wrong. Watch the video and determine for yourself what's happening. Don't read any articles, don't read any quotes, don't read any hot takes, corrections, correction-corrections, or correction-correction criticisms. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

01-22-2019, 10:25 PM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Vietnam times Marine veteran sounds misleading. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-23-2019, 11:56 AM	#7
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	This article fully explains how I feel about this incident. Those boys and their school get no pass from me. __________________ Jesse LaGreca in 2012 “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” – Mahatma Gandhi

01-22-2019, 05:15 PM	#4
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	The video only shows what it shows.

01-23-2019, 11:57 AM	#8
Diaphone Jim Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,122	I'm OK with the way this went down. A bunch of guys (didn't see any women or girls) got in each other's faces and made their points. In spite of insults and adrenaline, nobody threw a punch. Free speech in the age of ubiquitous video cameras and "social" media.

01-23-2019, 01:58 PM	#10
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Joker face is white with red lips. And enlarging the mouth is in no way incompatible with minstrel show makeup. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics] Last edited by Happy Monkey; 01-23-2019 at 02:05 PM.

01-23-2019, 02:15 PM	#11
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Joker face is white and red... perhaps except on blackout day?

01-23-2019, 02:25 PM	#14
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	No, on blackout day, it's black and black. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

01-23-2019, 03:50 PM	#15
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	are we really doing this __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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