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Old 01-05-2004, 02:38 PM   #46
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IF the letter gets read passed the first page, it'll be by a bored secretary. Business executives won't read anything longer than 1 page, unless it comes from higher up.
If it was me, I would send it to:

Theater execs.. RIGHT to the CEO's (online)
the Theater PR person
the BBB
the newspaper
and
Troy.

Let the execs know you're copying it to everyone.

I do that, and it gets IMMEDIATE results.

Last time I wrote some letters in a temper, I got an apology letter from the Virginia governor's office, among other things.
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Old 01-05-2004, 04:10 PM   #47
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The best services I have gone to have taken the tack of honoring the life which was. Those were Jewish and Native American. Catholic Funerals are a total downer.
Mormon funerals are unbearable. They're among the most solemn, depressing events known to man. She's getting a Mormon funeral because her kids are Mormon-- she wasn't. I was greatly annoyed when I learned that her daughter planned to put her in a special white dress for the viewing/burial, a dress which is sacred to Mormons and used in temple ceremonies... in the 20+ years I've been close to Norma, not once ever did I see her in a dress... and the fact that it's a sacred garment for a religoin she wasn't even a part of only makes it worse. Luckily my aunt's son put the brakes on that idea, though it resulted in a heated family debate.

My aunt's daughter is psychotic... as I mentioned earlier, as soon as she heard about her mother's heart attack she was at her mother's apartment going through her stuff, but in addition to that, she also took it upon herself to pour my aunt's appreciable variety of alcohols down the sink while she was at it. This was back when as far as anyone knew, my aunt could have recovered fully. Boy, I'll bet she felt righteous ridding the place of that evil alcohol... which my aunt used for cooking, and on a very, very rare occasion, for drinking in small quantities. Evil! You've got to love a psychotic, remorseless, devout Mormon with a personal agenda.

Sorry. I may be harboring some bitterness there.
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Old 01-05-2004, 05:08 PM   #48
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I witnessed a wonderful funeral. This beautiful woman died at age 72. She had cancer and entered hospice care and died peacefully there. Her daughter and granddaughter helped her along the way. Not overtly religious, the funeral was a celebration of her life, the Mom, the librarian, the free thinker, the traveler, the theater lover. She was well known in local theater circles and the most moving aspect of the gathering was an actor friend reading excerpts from the daughter's letters that the Mom had kept. The daughter had found these in her Mom's stuff and had forgotten she'd sent them long ago. They showed all the love and humor there. It was just beautiful. Flowers and pot luck. Mom collected goofy mugs from her travels, had hundreds of them. Everyone was welcome to take a mug on their way out. I aspire to that funeral.
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Old 01-05-2004, 07:25 PM   #49
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Sorry. I may be harboring some bitterness there.
Yes you are and it's 100% justified. I'd bet a years pay the daughter posthumously baptises (or whatever they call it) her mother into the mormon faith. They encourage that.

I went to a friends funeral last summer. He was dressed in jeans, a journey tee shirt and Grateful Dead suspenders. In the casket were some snap-on wrenches, a yo-yo, a picture of his '55 Chevy, selected CD's and other "stuff" that defined his life. I'll bet there were some joints in his pocket.
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Old 01-05-2004, 11:44 PM   #50
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I'd bet a years pay the daughter posthumously baptises (or whatever they call it) her mother into the mormon faith. They encourage that.
Damn Bruce, you're good. I just discussed that very thing with my cousin (it's uncreatively called "baptism for the dead"), and he and I are estimating about a month before the daughter is making arrangements for that very thing. It would not come as a shock at all if I learned that she had already started the process.

Lots of dead people are victims of this unauthorized baptism-by-proxy. Not only that, but Mormons wear sacred, magical underwear. I'm a little embarrased that I used to sort of be one (though I was very young).

God bless the athiests!
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:02 AM   #51
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Being an ex-mormon, I can say you're right about the "sacred underwear" and the "baptisms for the dead". I'm not surprised her daughter chucked all the alcohol. To NOT chuck it would be a horrible thing. Mormons believe that they are the only "enlightened" ones, and if they don't do anything and everything to convert the "wandering" ones, it's their sin.
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:03 AM   #52
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Mormon Garments

just in case you were wondering ...

There are masonic symbols of the square and the compass embroidered in various places on the "sacred chaps" or "jesus drawers" as they are apparently also known.

The two piece version is fairly new. The traditional garment has a step-in neckline, kind of like a leotard. There are also maternity and nursing versions available for the ladies.
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:08 AM   #53
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the mormon faith

Alan,
You are the second Mormon (ex mormon)I've ever met. The other one was at least as bitter as you seem to be. From what he told me, there is WAY too much organized prayer happening, and I don't remember what else. We did a little Amish bashing a while ago....care to take the hose to the Mormons? Or to defend them? I'm interested.
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:09 AM   #54
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Re: Mormon baptisms of the dead

Ehh, let 'em have their fun.

That's like buying a ticket for a train that's already left the station.
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:14 AM   #55
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Re: Mormon Garments

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just in case you were wondering ...

There are masonic symbols of the square and the compass embroidered in various places on the "sacred chaps" or "jesus drawers" as they are apparently also known.
I'll probably regret opening up a religion discussion [further], but...

what the heck do the masons have to do with the mormons?
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:15 AM   #56
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Being an ex-mormon, I can say you're right about the "sacred underwear"
Wait a minute. I thought you were an ex-english. what gives? are there english mormons? or did you just dally in it? mormon by marriage? married to the mormon. was that a movie? were you captured and forced to convert, then later rescued by a gang of good-guy Vigilantes? Or was that an episode of the A-team?

oh, and is Mormonic a word?
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:18 AM   #57
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There was quite a bit of furor over the LDS baptism of the dead for holocaust victims.
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:49 AM   #58
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what the heck do the masons have to do with the mormons?
It's a secret society. They aren't allowed to tell.
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:03 PM   #59
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i just gotta say (you americans!) that the mormon underwear fabric looks kinda freaky.
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:29 PM   #60
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Re: Mormon Garments

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just in case you were wondering ...

There are masonic symbols of the square and the compass embroidered in various places on the "sacred chaps" or "jesus drawers" as they are apparently also known.

The two piece version is fairly new. The traditional garment has a step-in neckline, kind of like a leotard. There are also maternity and nursing versions available for the ladies.
So...is this then 'Mormon Porn'?
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