What means the most to you in life?

[Shattered Soul]

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
No, Juju just does nits. They don't morph. Everybody is on their own when it comes to roaches

So THAT'S why he has that little gold-plated comb with the teeth reeeeeally close together. I thought it was a fashion statement. Who knew?

*imagines juju running around, brandishing his comb, checking people like the apes do...*

[elSicomoro]

That's spray-painted gold. Juju is a college student from AR, who recently became a father. Oh, and his car has different colored body panels.

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by juju
I'm not familiar with the Romantics. Could you educate me?

Early 80s new wave group, best known for their hits "What I Like About You" and "Talking in Your Sleep."

[juju]

Originally posted by Shattered Soul
So are you saying that keeping nits from morphing into cockroaches and taking over the kitchen of life is juju's reason for living?

I'd say so

(actually, I've sinced moved and now have no roaches).



[edit: removed evil, evil, evil graphical smilies.]

[elSicomoro]

Dude, what's up with you using the standard smileys? You fucking sell out bitch!

[juju]

I forget to check the stupid box. That's just great. Now if i go back and edit it, I look like an asshole!


[edit: ah well, life is short]

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally posted by sycamore


Early 80s new wave group, best known for their hits "What I Like About You" and "Talking in Your Sleep."

No, no, no. 1963, back up for Ruby on "Our Day Will Come":p

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by juju
I forget to check the stupid box. That's just great. Now if i go back and edit it, I look like an asshole!

Nah, you're already an asshole.

[juju]

Do you see what my life is like? I have to check that box EVERY TIME i MAKE A POST! This is the life you people are enforcing on me.

[juju]

Ok, not every time.

[elSicomoro]

I believe the word you were looking for is "force," not "enforce." And nobody is forcing you to not use graphical smileys. You're just an asshole about them.

[juju]

<b>I</b> am a victim!

[Shattered Soul]

Originally posted by juju
I have a problem with the entire concept, because it implies that man is apart from nature, and not a part of it. It implies that we are not an integral part of the ecosystem, which we are. It implies that we somehow defy the laws of nature, which we do not. And lastly, it implies that we are inheretly bad and that everything we touch is corrupted.

Man IS a part of nature, although he's done a good job of--how best to put it?--removing himself from its immediete sphere, I suppose-- and therefore are NOT an integral part of the ecosystem any longer, except insofar as he tends to disrupt it. Instead of working within nature, mankind imposes artificiality in his dealings with his environment.

Now, that's only to be expected in some areas....We have poles and wires to convey electricity for the things that make our lives easier, we have medicines which help us live longer, and things of that nature. But we also have toxic waste dumps because we don't want to deal with the costs of disposing of it more efficiently. We have slums, and war, and toxic fumes from the vehicles we've invented to make our lives easier.

We don't defy the laws of nature. I don't know where that came from...and I don't think that a criticism of the way mankind handles his environment is necessarily an implication that he is "evil," or that everything he touches is corrupted. Mankind DOES have a tendency to "corrupt" something in the sense that if he believes that by using it in the way he wishes that it will benefit him (ie, razing a rainforest for the trees, chopping down trees for the wood and not planting replacements because of the expense it would entail, not installing filters on smokestacks because of the cost, etc.), and by doing this he not only destroys the environment around him, bit by bit, but also endangers his own species.

Mankind IS interconnected, but only in the sense that by destroying our environment, we endanger ourselves. I think that we're more dependent on our environment than the environment is dependent on us.

Mankind does good things, too, though. We have natural forests that are kept pristine (for the most part), and serve as a haven of safety for aspects of nature that would otherwise fall victim to "progress," the medicines he's created prevent epidemics of disease from wiping out whole cities of people.

The point, really, is that mankind tends to think of himself first, and "nature" last because he really doesn't consider himself "part of nature," but master of it...they may, in the abstract, see "mankind" as an organism that evolved within nature, but after that, they kind of separate themselves (for example, we say, "people and animals," as if people WEREN'T animals also).

I don't think that homo sapiens is evil, or that everything it does is corrupted. Mankind is quite capable of creating beauty and of attaining benevolent genius. But what he is capable of doing and what he does are often two different things, depending on the reigning values of the moment. After all, the bowerbird creates and paints a home for his mate...but he doesn't knock down a forest to do it.

All this from the definition of "natural...."


So who's in charge of zapping the mosquitoes? Or are we on our own with those, as well?

:p

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
No, no, no. 1963, back up for Ruby on "Our Day Will Come"

Ah...there are two groups with the name, then.

Damnit Bruce, once again, you have shown us that there's no reason to put you out to pasture yet. It looked like we might have to after that shoulder injury, but there you go again, you fantastic bastard.

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by juju
I am a victim!

Due to the fact that you are from Arkansas...God, that must suck.