Wow. Tookie. - Page 4

tw · 12-23-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Beestie

The sympathy for the perpetrator I see in this thread is mind-numbing. Its as though the pile of corpses and ruined lives are a sunk cost and don't factor into the evaluation.

It not just the unrepentant violence that causes me to question his supporters. It is also what he did. He co-authored some books. So what? Why does that prove repentance? I just don't see quantitative reasons that would justify actions by CA's governor.

That capital punishment is wrong because it is too often applied erroneously - now that would be a logical reason. But erroneous prosecution is not being claimed. Somehow because he wrote children's books, that somehow says he is reformed. Woefully too little too late to validate such reasoning. So what am I missing? Where is a signficant fact that would justify a change in sentencing?

Griff · 12-23-2005, 07:09 PM

I don't believe in the death penalty but if you're going to use it this was the guy. He was the Grandaddy of all the gangbanger nonsense. Nobody should be executed by the state but to exempt this guy when you're executing kids and the mentally retarded, this belongs in the wtf thread.

zippyt · 12-22-2005, 01:12 AM

What is the saying ,,,,,,, Oh yea " live by the sword , Die by the sword "

Clodfobble · 12-22-2005, 09:27 PM

I really wish people would stop talking about the "four people" he killed. Yeah, and Al Capone committed tax fraud. The man killed dozens at least, and everyone knows it.

Trilby · 12-23-2005, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I really wish people would stop talking about the "four people" he killed. Yeah, and Al Capone committed tax fraud. The man killed dozens at least, and everyone knows it.

I didn't realize it was a competition.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-23-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I really wish people would stop talking about the "four people" he killed. Yeah, and Al Capone committed tax fraud. The man killed dozens at least, and everyone knows it.

It was the 4 people he was convicted of killing that have to be entered into the argument about his punishment. The rest are speculation and have no place in the debate.

wolf · 12-23-2005, 11:48 AM

He hadn't admitted guilt or shown remorse for the four he's been legally held responsible for, I doubt that he would do so with respect to the ones he got away with.

Urbane Guerrilla · 12-26-2005, 03:56 AM

BigV, the short answer is you've got to be kidding me. But then, I always did have some problems with your worldview. Reckon I always will.

richlevy · 12-26-2005, 01:12 PM

Here is a book I just found in the bargain bin for $1.

Death Penalty Decisions of the United States Supreme Court

The book was published in 2003, and has 11 major death penalty decisions, supposedly translated into standard English with defintions of legal terms.

I decided not to get if for myself, but if anyone want's to brush up on the topic, you can't beat a dollar. Maybe you should all buy it and form a discussion group.

12-23-2005, 07:09 PM	#2
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I don't believe in the death penalty but if you're going to use it this was the guy. He was the Grandaddy of all the gangbanger nonsense. Nobody should be executed by the state but to exempt this guy when you're executing kids and the mentally retarded, this belongs in the wtf thread. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

12-22-2005, 01:12 AM	#3
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	What is the saying ,,,,,,, Oh yea " live by the sword , Die by the sword " __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

12-23-2005, 11:48 AM	#7
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	He hadn't admitted guilt or shown remorse for the four he's been legally held responsible for, I doubt that he would do so with respect to the ones he got away with. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-26-2005, 03:56 AM	#8
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	BigV, the short answer is you've got to be kidding me. But then, I always did have some problems with your worldview. Reckon I always will. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

12-26-2005, 01:12 PM	#9
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Here is a book I just found in the bargain bin for $1. Death Penalty Decisions of the United States Supreme Court The book was published in 2003, and has 11 major death penalty decisions, supposedly translated into standard English with defintions of legal terms. I decided not to get if for myself, but if anyone want's to brush up on the topic, you can't beat a dollar. Maybe you should all buy it and form a discussion group. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

12-22-2005, 09:27 PM	#4
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I really wish people would stop talking about the "four people" he killed. Yeah, and Al Capone committed tax fraud. The man killed dozens at least, and everyone knows it.

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