The Obamanation - Page 47

capnhowdy · 08-24-2009, 06:36 PM

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sugarpop · 08-24-2009, 08:59 PM

I didn't say MSNBC is ALL I watch, just that I watch it a lot. I also watch other news sources, and read different news magazines. I even watch FOX sometimes when I can stomach it.

And I am not being a patsy to anyone, I am calling it like I see it.

sugarpop · 08-24-2009, 08:59 PM

oh, and I disagree that MSNBC is biased.

classicman · 08-24-2009, 09:39 PM

I'm not surprised.

richlevy · 08-26-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

I'm not surprised.

I'm not going to say that MSNBC is unbiased, just that they are more credible than Fox. I'm still trying to find left wing nutjobs that MSNBC has given a platform to on par with Ann Coulter's access to Fox.

I watch Morning Joe on MSNBC with a former moderate Republican Congressman as host frequently flanked by Pat Buchanan a conservative Republican/Independent.

When Barney Frank gets to host a show on Fox with Al Gore as a guest, I'll declare them less biased.

classicman · 08-26-2009, 08:33 AM

Well monkey - maybe the people you hang around are racists and biased based upon something as insignificant as another persons color, but not in my world.
Stop promoting that partisan bullshit, and yes, it's BULLSHIT.

Happy Monkey · 08-26-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Well monkey - maybe the people you hang around are racists and biased based upon something as insignificant as another persons color, but not in my world.
Stop promoting that partisan bullshit, and yes, it's BULLSHIT.

There isn't a lot of anger or animosity among the people I hang around, so I'm not sure where you're coming from there.

But if "a LOT of the anger out there IS because we have a black man as president, and a lot of the animosity IS race driven" "among the uninformed/ignorant", then the premise that "a LOT of the anger out there IS because we have a black man as president, and a lot of the animosity IS race driven" isn't bullshit.

classicman · 08-26-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

There isn't a lot of anger or animosity among the people I hang around, so I'm not sure where you're coming from there.

But if

Happy Monkey · 08-27-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

There isn't a lot of anger or animosity among the people I hang around, so I'm not sure where you're coming from there.

But if

You already conceded that "if" when you said a LOT of the anger out there IS because we have a black man as president, and a lot of the animosity IS race driven

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Originally Posted by classicman

among the uninformed/ignorant

TheMercenary · 09-01-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

But if "a LOT of the anger out there IS because we have a black man as president, and a lot of the animosity IS race driven" "among the uninformed/ignorant", then the premise that "a LOT of the anger out there IS because we have a black man as president, and a lot of the animosity IS race driven" isn't bullshit.

Sounds like bullshit to me. I did hear a a black woman on CNN make a very emotional statement supporting this notion that all this opposition to Obama is race driven. All she could offer to support her statements were some very loose associations and connections which bordered on conspiracy theory and really discredited her. CNN gave her a pass and never once challanged her statements. So far no one can prove any racial connection between opposition to Obama's policies. So until that happens it is all Bullshit. Talk about fear mongering among the supporters of Obama to get people to support them. Wow, sounds just like what the Republickins did to get people to support the WOT.

morethanpretty · 08-26-2009, 09:56 AM

Why is it, when its the other side, its always partisan bullshit, but when its your own side, its the truth?

classicman · 08-26-2009, 11:32 AM

lol - ask yourself that question. Perhaps it will allow for some enlightenment.

morethanpretty · 08-26-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

lol - ask yourself that question. Perhaps it will allow for some enlightenment.

I've never made the claims you do about partisan bullshit.

ZenGum · 08-26-2009, 08:45 PM

I think the problem here is that "only among the uninformed and ignorant" could mean "only among X% of the population" where the value of X could be higher than most of us would like to admit.

That's a pretty big "only" group, by quite a lot of estimates.

Undertoad · 08-26-2009, 10:13 PM

Rich.

When the lefty NY Times publishes conservative voices for its opinions columns, it tries hard to get the most solid thinkers it can. David Brooks, and now, Ross Douthat. That's credibility. Putting Pat Buchanan on as your token conservative means you're actually harder left, and less credible. You've chosen a voice that is A) not well representative of conservativism, B) often deeply anti-Semitic/racist and C) easily dismissed.

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classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I'm not surprised. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-26-2009, 08:33 AM	#6
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Well monkey - maybe the people you hang around are racists and biased based upon something as insignificant as another persons color, but not in my world. Stop promoting that partisan bullshit, and yes, it's BULLSHIT. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-26-2009, 09:56 AM	#11
morethanpretty Thats "Miss Zipper Neck" to you. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: little town (but not the littlest) in texas Posts: 2,957	Why is it, when its the other side, its always partisan bullshit, but when its your own side, its the truth? __________________ Addicts may suck dick for coke, but love came up with the idea to put a dick in there to begin with. -Jack O'Brien

08-26-2009, 11:32 AM	#12
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	lol - ask yourself that question. Perhaps it will allow for some enlightenment. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-24-2009, 08:59 PM	#2
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	I didn't say MSNBC is ALL I watch, just that I watch it a lot. I also watch other news sources, and read different news magazines. I even watch FOX sometimes when I can stomach it. And I am not being a patsy to anyone, I am calling it like I see it.

08-26-2009, 08:45 PM	#14
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	I think the problem here is that "only among the uninformed and ignorant" could mean "only among X% of the population" where the value of X could be higher than most of us would like to admit. That's a pretty big "only" group, by quite a lot of estimates. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

08-26-2009, 10:13 PM	#15
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Rich. When the lefty NY Times publishes conservative voices for its opinions columns, it tries hard to get the most solid thinkers it can. David Brooks, and now, Ross Douthat. That's credibility. Putting Pat Buchanan on as your token conservative means you're actually harder left, and less credible. You've chosen a voice that is A) not well representative of conservativism, B) often deeply anti-Semitic/racist and C) easily dismissed.

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