The absurdity of Donald Trump

[tw]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Apparently death isn't relevant to you. First tw post about COVID was 2/28 in the thread started 2/27

As I often do, wait for someone to start that discussion. And amazed how long nobody was discussing this. Actually considered starting a discussion earlier in February. But decided to wait - to learn how many remained uninformed (ie brainwashed by Fox News, et al). Was shocked to learn how many did not see what was obvious.

Remember Saddam's WMDs and many who were brainwashed by that obvious lie? I did same then. Only after discussion started, I buried discussion with reams of facts that made reality obvious - Saddam did not have WMDs - obviously. Also discussed Phase Four planning. How Bremer (and Rumsfeld) created a disastrous insurgency - as predicted (it was worse than even I expected)? Remember "dejavue Nam"? Also not discussed until others finally began discussing.

For those new to the Cellar, find these discussions back around 2003. Don't know if they remain.

The topic is a scumbag so corrupt as to never even own or run a successful company. Who even stiffs contractors and defaults on bank loans. To enrich himself at the expense of all others. Even Fox News praises that scumbag. Some persons here even recite Fox News lies - that promote Trump. Just like they believed Fox News lies about Saddam's WMDs Katrina. Global warming. And Fukushima Daiichi.

So instead of discussing the topic and reasons for brainwashing, you make accusations. Then we need not know how many times your got those above discussions wrong. My god sir. News showed those nuclear plants exploding. And you still denied those meltdowns.

I saw this coming when responsible news sources provided facts. But not anywhere near as bad as it is. I expected it to end (seriously diminish) by August. It is worse than even I expected. But Fox News order you to believe it was just another flu. You recited that lie.

Two can play this Trump style game of accuse others to avert facts and reality. Trump has always been that corrupt. Which explains why even Timothy McVeigh types love him. And why America's Covid-19 response has been one of the world's worst. Apparently you do not want to admit that reality. Some also will not apologize for advocating the death of 5,000 Americans for no purpose.

Trump intentionally removes his mask off to spread Trump's viral wisdom. Why does UT approve? Do you want to play this "accuse others" game. Or deal with reality. A president with a 30 second attention span.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Apparently death isn't relevant to you. First tw post about COVID was 2/28 in the thread started 2/27

You could have prevented deaths if you had such amazing a priori knowledge. You claim you had the information. You bought the masks. You told nobody. You did not prevent the deaths. Blood is on your hands, killer.

I tried on February first but you guys wanted to talk about instrument of music instead of instruments of death.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I tried on February first but you guys wanted to talk about instrument of music instead of instruments of death.

Bring back sanity. What happened to Tiny Tim?

[Griff]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I tried on February first but you guys wanted to talk about instrument of music instead of instruments of death.

That was my fault.

[Undertoad]

You've started 323 threads since the beginning and 8 this year, Otis.

But the question is not only about us, it's about your family. Do you not start discussions with them? When the topic is life or death?

Family blood is on your hands

[tw]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

You've started 323 threads since the beginning and 8 this year, Otis.

Only 323 threads since the 1990s. Many were only corny jokes or curious anomalies. Or a continuation of another thread. I started less than 1% of the threads I have posted in. That proves Trump properly addressed Covid-19 threats?. Of course he did not. Stay on topic. We know someone, with a 30 second attention span, cannot.

Trump was informed the Pandemic was coming by his administration's professional scientist - in January. You don't know that. Fox News job is to keep one uninformed and brainwashed. Trump admits (in recordings) to being warned in January.

Responsible news services (both domestic and international) were telling me that something serious was coming. About same time Trump was also told. Those are facts ... relevant .. and denied by you because it contracts Fox News brainwashing..

Your emotions denied Saddam's WMDs were mythical even after George Jr admitted so. Emotions. Denied Fukushima Daiichi reactors were in meltdown even after two exploded. Emotions. Claimed global warming does not exist by posting some vague and irrelevant half truth about volcanoes. Emotions. Because "really fake" news from Fox said so.

Trump is worse (more corrupt) than Nixon. If you know otherwise, then defend him. You cannot. So in the Trump tradition, attack a person. Since overt lies cannot be defended - even by alternative facts.

An adult would be posting facts to defend Trump. But that is impossible. Fox News never provided honest facts. Trump and Fox News constantly lie - even back in January when masks sold out as fast as they arrived.

Will UT address the issue? Or post more irrelevant, UG style lies?

The whole world is watching.

[Undertoad]

blood on your hands, killer

all that wisdom but it did nothing for your own kin

[tw]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

blood on your hands, killer

all that wisdom but it did nothing for your own kin

UT again demonstrates a classic Trump supporter. Personal insults and not one fact. Proving but again how corrupt Trump is and how brainwashed his supporters are.

[Undertoad]

surprised you can type, or that the blood doesn't clog the keyboard

[glatt]

We didn’t have expert intelligence reports being delivered to us. It wasn’t until March that I realized it was worse than the flu here in the US. Those first two weeks of March, shit got real. I had been trying to understand the numbers and what they meant in the second half of February.

I attended a wedding on February 29, and had a fairly intense discussion with a cousin where I took the position that Covid was serious, but only about as bad as the flu. She was in full blown pandemic belief, but interestingly, was at a crowded wedding without a mask. I don’t think there were confirmed US cases yet at that time, but I was convinced it had breached the borders.

My office closed Mid-March, and I bought a better computer monitor the first week of March, so I knew it was real then.

I am going to pick a date and say that I knew it was real on March 10, 2020.

[tw]

Originally Posted by glatt

She was in full blown pandemic belief, but interestingly, was at a crowded wedding without a mask. I don’t think there were confirmed US cases yet at that time, but I was convinced it had breached the borders.

In those early days, CDC was saying masks were unnecessary (yet). Because the major shortage of masks and other PPE was even apparent to me in January by simply viewing what was on retail store shelves. As Dr Fauci said, back then, we did not encourage masks because too few were available for those who most needed them - doctors, nurses, etc.

That was the point of not posting. Cellar was one of my sources - to appreciate how much was known and unknown. Surprising that no one was discussing this in January or February. Apparently my news sources (that, for example, avoids all local gossip pretending to be news) tend to be more informed. Store shelves imply I was only one of many with better informed news services.

[Undertoad]

In other words, you didn't encourage us to save our own lives because you wanted to see how many of us would die.

[jaminhealth]

Reading the Title of the thread and every time DJT opens his mouth the spewing of Lies, Vulgarness and Sad Soul words come to my mind.

And I believe on Covid, there is so so so much we'll never know....and I don't own a mask, distancing is what I do anyway as I'm home for a lot of years and sanitizers, never owned one. I'm fine..

Vit C, Vit D, Zinc and Grapeseed Exract are my champions. And these COULD keep everyone from contracting the virus. Just sayin...

[tw]

Originally Posted by jaminhealth

Vit C, Vit D, Zinc and Grapeseed Exract are my champions.

Where is one fact or number that justifies any of that?

Grapeseed Extract comes from stores that science clearly exposed as scams. NY Attorney General studied everything found on shelves in GNC. 90% of those contents were not what was listed on the label. Health food stores target consumers who are always most easily scammed. Who must lie to themselves to believe 'miracle cure' lies and other conclusions only from emotions.

Apparently you have made a conclusion based only in wild speculation. Masks are not worn to protect you. Any informed adult (thinking like an adult) knows that. Masks are worn to protect Constitutional Rights of all others. Apparently you have contempt for everyone else and logical thought; do not wear a mask.

Ignorance is never an excuse. Ignorance is why one believes scams will keep one healthy. Only contempt of others explains why one would not use a mask.

Unfortunately too many adults still only use the brain of a child to make conclusions. "I feel. Therefore it must be true."

Same though process also concludes, "I ran stop signs and did not kill anyone. So that proves I can run all stop signs."

Where is even one fact or number justify those beliefs? Scams are that easily promoted who use the reptilian brain to make decisions.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by tw

Unfortunately too many adults still only use the brain of a child to make conclusions. "I feel. Therefore it must be true."

Now now, nobody... well not too many, are that vain. It's I found 3 people on the internet who agree, so it must be true.