Global warming?

[piercehawkeye45]

There was a period where many peer reviewed papers on global cooling were published but they were always greatly outnumbered by the number of peer reviewed papers published arguing global warming or a neutral stance. There was never a consensus of global cooling in the 1970's.

[classicman]

That seems counter to links previously posted.

[Happy Monkey]

Here's a new link to the PDF:

http://aerosol.ucsd.edu/classes/sio2...8-myth1970.pdf

Those quotes are under the heading "Perpetuating the Myth", and are debunked by the paper.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Those quotes are under the heading "Perpetuating the Myth", and are debunked by the paper.

well you are no fun...

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Here's a new link to the PDF:

http://aerosol.ucsd.edu/classes/sio2...8-myth1970.pdf

Those quotes are under the heading "Perpetuating the Myth", and are debunked by the paper.

This pretty much sums it up:

But you can be sure the "global cooling consensus of the 70s" will pop up again.

[classicman]

Yes I'm playing Devil's advocate here. Someone has to ask the questions.

[TheMercenary]

Well, Gore's not happy with Obamy....


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=13900390

[TheMercenary]

Cogin, don't waste your time. Think Ted Kaczynski in a cabin in the woods.

[Undertoad]

Jobs from clean energy was a theme in the Obama 08 campaign. It was one thing I thought was ridiculous. Jobs just aren't created that way. When O's green jobs czar got ousted, they didn't replace him, I believe.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Jobs from clean energy was a theme in the Obama 08 campaign. It was one thing I thought was ridiculous. Jobs just aren't created that way. When O's green jobs czar got ousted, they didn't replace him, I believe.

Funny thing is he is repeating it, as recently as last week. The guy just doesn't get it. That or some lobbyist is feeding him bull shit on the side.

[Fair&Balanced]

Innovation drives the economic engine in a global economy, unless you want the US to rely on a service-based economy.

And innovation requires investment in R&D as well as seed funding to move from research to application, unless we dont want to compete with the rest of the world.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Innovation drives the economic engine in a global economy, unless you want the US to rely on a service-based economy.

And innovation requires investment in R&D as well as seed funding to move from research to application, unless we dont want to compete with the rest of the world.

Doesn't answer the question as to why they would throw millions of dollars away into a part of the country that is literally awash with hydro-power.

Let's take a look at how many jobs were created with the supposed Stimulus to get those "Shovel Ready Jobs" going in the Green Sector of the economy and how much we spent to make those jobs:

http://stimuluswatch.org/2.0/agencie...newable-energy

[BigV]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Doesn't answer the question as to why they would throw millions of dollars away into a part of the country that is literally awash with hydro-power.


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Look, this is really simple.

"why put the wind turbines there?" That's your question, minus the slander.

The answer is because that is where the wind is. Just like why put the dam there for hydro power, because that is where the energy IS to be had. Or why put the oil wells there, etc.

If you're asking why put two technologies in the same place, it is because that's where the energy is. I don't hear you asking why would we throw away billions of dollars for gas wells in a part of the country that is literally awash with oil wells.

I reject your simplistic baiting misleading question.

[Fair&Balanced]

I dont know to further address your myopic thinking based on anectdotal examples.

If we dont invest in R&D and innovation, we lose to the rest of the world. Period.

[Undertoad]

Innovation drives the economic engine in a global economy

That is some really colorful beltway bullshit, a great way to sound like you know what you're talking about without really saying much.