Dutch Ban Burkas

[Ibby]

Thats funny, the ONLY person I see in this thread treating anybody like 'impure cockroaches' is YOU.

[Aliantha]

I can't wait till DanaC sees this thread.

Islam cannot be disolved into the idea of nationhood . Islam scorns Christianity as being an incomplete form of religious identity . Islam sees the non-Muslim as impure . Islam does not accept any other way . There is no concept of there being several paths to climb the same mountain . A Muslim who decides to seek other paths of thought is an apostate , who theoretically deserves to be culled as an animal .
Islam asks for everything , and there does not seem to be any form of reasonable Islam on the way . Like , I'm really grateful not to be stoned .

They are frightened lunatics , and if they want to stop being seen as such , they should say so . I am sick to the back teeth of talking about tolerance and individuals to the sound of Muslim silence .

[Aliantha]

I choose not to view the Muslims in my community and circle of acquaintance as lunatics.

You on the other hand buddug, are another thing all together.

I do not want my country to be influenced by these people .

[WabUfvot5]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

When people are forced to give up part of their belief system, they are being asked to give up part of themselves.

They really aren't forced unless they are already in the country. That applies, according to the article, to 50 in the Netherlands. If new immigrants don't like it they certainly don't have to go to the Netherlands.

[Aliantha]

Well that's too bad Buddug, because it already has been.

Dana C enrages me .

[WabUfvot5]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

It's festering in the slums and ghettos every day and one day it will erupt like it has in France.

In the case of France it was often 2nd and 3rd generation French immigrants that were involved in the riots. Whether they were forced into the slums or created the slums on their own is something I don't know.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

The Islamic dress issue is just a symbol of the assimilation problem and I think a statement by the government to the immigrants.... If you want to live here you must adapt to our culture, you will not force us to adapt to yours.
I may be wrong, but that's the message I get.

Nope, you nailed it more or less.

[Aliantha]

I'd be pretty pissed off if our government passed such a legislation because I don't believe that people wearing Burka's are trying to force me to be Muslim. They're practicing the beliefs of their culture.

Why ? Because she puts her British coat on , and tries to tell you how it is in Britain .
She is a Muslim who rides on all our fine and ancient laws in order to strap us down .
She enjoys being on this forum because she can wax lyrical about being British to Americans . Because I am British , I see through her language , she is not one of us . I know I can seem appalling to you lot , but at least I do not pretend to be what I am not .

[lookout123]

There is no concept of there being several paths to climb the same mountain . A Muslim who decides to seek other paths of thought is an apostate

hey genius? that is also true of christianity. i'm just sayin'.

Not true , lookout . Unlike the Muslims and the Jews , there is no concept of one rigid way for us Christians .

Jesus swept away all the laws , and told us to see with our hearts. Christianity is about love , whatever the form . As a Christian I have a BIG problem with Islam .

[lookout123]

ok, i refuse to get into any discussion with you, but you might want to recheck the new testament again. *this is not an invite for attack from non-believers* if you say that you are a christian - a follower of jesus christ, son of god - but you don't believe that there is only one way then you might want to open up your bible and start re-reading some of that red print.

something about i am the way, the truth, the life, no one comes to the father but through the son...

*lookout checks out of discussion*

[xoxoxoBruce]

But you are not British.