Iran - Page 5

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-23-2007, 07:23 AM

It occurred to me tonight to wonder where Iran was getting its uranium, and Google came to my aid. The Iranians seem to be working any source they can get at; they're mining some modest reserves of rather low grade ore domestically and they're working on African sources, showing a good deal of enthusiasm for mines in Somalia -- though how much success they'd have, fishing in waters this troubled, I'm sure I don't know. Then there's the Tanzanian uranium smuggling incident, where a lot of stuff doesn't quite add up yet -- arguments, for example, over just how much radioactivity could have been detectable in and from the shipping container. The UN report on all this for some reason (possibly skanky, as UN corruption and favoritism are becoming better and better known) isn't talking about uranium, while Tanzanian officialdom is. Sounds like you ought to fly to Dar Es Salaam with your own Geiger counter and geologists' hammer and find out for yourself. I didn't even see anything on whether it was raw ore or yellowcake, but I might have missed something.

Domestic Iranian Uranium -- I'm a poet and I don't know it.

Two Iranians prospecting for uranium possibilities in Somalia -- link to a one-sentence mention included in a UN report detailing arms smuggling into Somalia in aid of both the Transitional Government and the Islamic Courts.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-17-2007, 01:59 PM

There is a difference between that and talking about how a government supports terrorist.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-23-2007, 02:01 PM

I know V for Vendetta used that but I'm sure they got it from somewhere else.

By the way, that quote was sarcasm, yet it is sadly true.

yesman065 · 01-23-2007, 09:10 PM

What Phil said. "a people should not fear their government - a government should fear the people."

piercehawkeye45 · 01-23-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by yesman065

What Phil said. "a people should not fear their government - a government should fear the people."

I'm pretty sure the American government doesn't fear it's people. Doesn't that make us back-assward?

yesman065 · 01-24-2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

I'm pretty sure the American government doesn't fear it's people. Doesn't that make us back-assward?

I think they fear us plenty. Why else would they be saying all they do to appease us. If at some point they didn't, they certainly do now. They need us to remain employed, to have the power we entrust them with.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-25-2007, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by yesman065

I think they fear us plenty. Why else would they be saying all they do to appease us. If at some point they didn't, they certainly do now. They need us to remain employed, to have the power we entrust them with.

Are you talking about 500 or so elected people that are so entrenched in the political scum, you'd play hell trying to dispose of them? Or by government do you mean the millions that occupy those desks, or benchs, or trucks, or tanks, and you can't do a damn thing about?

yesman065 · 01-25-2007, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Are you talking about 500 or so elected people that are so entrenched in the political scum, you'd play hell trying to dispose of them? Or by government do you mean the millions that occupy those desks, or benchs, or trucks, or tanks, and you can't do a damn thing about?

I was referring to the elected officials

Ibby · 01-24-2007, 12:44 AM

If you think the government doesnt fear the people, just wait till election year rolls around. Fear of no votes (and therefore no JOB) is fear all the same, no?

piercehawkeye45 · 01-24-2007, 02:01 PM

Why would Bush send a "surge" of troops when no one wants that? They may give us an illusion that we have power when in reality, it is just one big cycle.

glatt · 01-24-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Why would Bush send a "surge" of troops when no one wants that?

Because he thinks the appearance of being a strong leader is as important if not more important than actually leading.

Kitsune · 01-24-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Why would Bush send a "surge" of troops when no one wants that?

What, you think applying more force isn't going to make this better or something?

01-29-2007, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Why would Bush send a "surge" of troops when no one wants that? They may give us an illusion that we have power when in reality, it is just one big cycle.

To steal the oil and natural gas, duh!
Time to make the move.

yesman065 · 01-24-2007, 03:00 PM

nuclear Holocaust

yesman065 · 01-24-2007, 03:11 PM

Everyone in the Mideast is counting on the soft Americans to fold up their tents and leave. Only problem is they are facing a President who will not fold - period. Just when it seems that everyone is saying quit - he steps it up. Then the insurgent violence goes up a notch too. All these Mid East wacko leaders suddenly start making statements to the world and on and on. . .
Hmm. Just an observation.

01-23-2007, 07:23 AM	#1
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	It occurred to me tonight to wonder where Iran was getting its uranium, and Google came to my aid. The Iranians seem to be working any source they can get at; they're mining some modest reserves of rather low grade ore domestically and they're working on African sources, showing a good deal of enthusiasm for mines in Somalia -- though how much success they'd have, fishing in waters this troubled, I'm sure I don't know. Then there's the Tanzanian uranium smuggling incident, where a lot of stuff doesn't quite add up yet -- arguments, for example, over just how much radioactivity could have been detectable in and from the shipping container. The UN report on all this for some reason (possibly skanky, as UN corruption and favoritism are becoming better and better known) isn't talking about uranium, while Tanzanian officialdom is. Sounds like you ought to fly to Dar Es Salaam with your own Geiger counter and geologists' hammer and find out for yourself. I didn't even see anything on whether it was raw ore or yellowcake, but I might have missed something. Domestic Iranian Uranium -- I'm a poet and I don't know it. Two Iranians prospecting for uranium possibilities in Somalia -- link to a one-sentence mention included in a UN report detailing arms smuggling into Somalia in aid of both the Transitional Government and the Islamic Courts. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course. Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 01-23-2007 at 07:51 AM.

01-24-2007, 12:44 AM	#9
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	If you think the government doesnt fear the people, just wait till election year rolls around. Fear of no votes (and therefore no JOB) is fear all the same, no? __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

01-24-2007, 03:11 PM	#15
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Everyone in the Mideast is counting on the soft Americans to fold up their tents and leave. Only problem is they are facing a President who will not fold - period. Just when it seems that everyone is saying quit - he steps it up. Then the insurgent violence goes up a notch too. All these Mid East wacko leaders suddenly start making statements to the world and on and on. . . Hmm. Just an observation. Last edited by yesman065; 01-24-2007 at 03:16 PM.

01-17-2007, 01:59 PM	#2
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	There is a difference between that and talking about how a government supports terrorist.

01-23-2007, 02:01 PM	#3
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	I know V for Vendetta used that but I'm sure they got it from somewhere else. By the way, that quote was sarcasm, yet it is sadly true.

01-23-2007, 09:10 PM	#4
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	What Phil said. "a people should not fear their government - a government should fear the people."

01-24-2007, 02:01 PM	#10
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Why would Bush send a "surge" of troops when no one wants that? They may give us an illusion that we have power when in reality, it is just one big cycle.

01-24-2007, 03:00 PM	#14
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	nuclear Holocaust

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