Which is worse, booze or pot? - Page 5

bluesdave · 03-20-2007, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

I think I looked up the water intoxication numbers before, but I can never keep that particular bit of information in my head. It keeps getting crowded out by things that are infinitely more important, like Star Trek Trivia.

Since you have raised the topic, have you heard of the new Star Trek movie that is being made by ST fans with the support of couple of old cast members? I'll have to try to find the link, but I suspect it has gone. I think George Takei and/or Walter Keonig is supporting it.

bluesdave · 03-20-2007, 02:03 AM

I could not find a movie, but there are some "guys" writing gay episodes of Trek: http://www.newvoyages.com/. I don't know if this is the same group of people that I was referring to.

Sundae · 03-20-2007, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I'm finding it very strange that many in here seem to think that if someone smokes pot at all they are a "stoner". Makes no sense at all and not what I have experienced.

I know that I used the term, but I wouldn't consider anyone who smokes to be a stoner. To me it is a slightly tongue in cheek label for someone to whom smoking is the most important thing in their life. I wouldn't call anyone who had a glass of wine a lush, but I might use the term affectionately to describe someone who drank a lot.

Undertoad · 03-20-2007, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

A "friend," eh?

Not me, honest! If it was me I would reply with the blushing smilie.

And as far as demotivation goes, this guy is exactly the opposite - it motivates him. I think demotivation is the primary problem with weed, and a lot of people have real trouble with it, but this guy proves, we're all wired a little differently. He gets a TON of stuff done all day, then he smokes at night, every night, goes to bed stoned then wakes up early to another big day.

DanaC · 03-20-2007, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kagen4o4
and if you make pot socially acceptable people wont stop, more people will take it up and you'll have a world full of stoners.

In Amsterdam, they really don't have much of a problem with pot. About the biggest problem they have is people visiting from countries where it is still prohibited and going kid-in-a-sweetshop-crazy on the weed. The locals are a lot less excitable about it.

busterb · 03-20-2007, 07:22 AM

What's the difference between a drunk and a junkie?

They'll both steal your billfold.

But the junkie will help you hunt it.

bb 75

DanaC · 03-20-2007, 07:27 AM

define junkie.

Spexxvet · 03-20-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

... I think demotivation is the primary problem with weed, and a lot of people have real trouble with it...

Back when I smoked a lot of pot, I wanted to overcome this problem, but decided it was much more important to laugh at the TV and order people to bring me beer and junk food.

busterb · 03-20-2007, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

define junkie.

Junkie
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The most common term of the word junkie (or junky) is to describe a drug addict. Also, people enthusiastic about any specific thing sometimes call themselves junkies (as in the term "science fiction junkie" or "political junkie").

Heroin has the street name "junk", which would offer an explanation of the word "junkie".

DanaC · 03-20-2007, 12:27 PM

Therefore it doesn't really apply in a discussion about pot and alcohol.

Happy Monkey · 03-20-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

They tried banning it once and look what happened. Then they legalized it and keep on tinkering with the rules for consumption etc and yet there is still a problem.

Why would anyone think that if a drug like marijuana were legal there'd be no problems or at least, there'd be less than there are with alcohol

Banning alcohol was an unmitigated disaster. Legalization was unambiguously the right thing to do. Why would weed be different?

03-20-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Lethality results from more than two gallons of water per day (so you are correct on that score) with there being more input than output.

When I worked on the ranch I drank more than that before noon.

One of those who is a member of the AMA study and still smoking several marijuana cigarettes a day still works as a very successful stock trader.

03-20-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymented

And if you steal low value items or small amounts of money, you're not a thief.

That is ridiculous, there is no equivalency.
Yes, you are a thief.
But, if I drink a beer that does not make me an alcoholic, if I smoke one cigar a week I am not addicted to tobacco, if I play the lottery once every two weeks so I can dream about "what if" for a week for fun with my wife I am not a gambling addict, if I bungee jump once in a while at the fair because I like the thrill I am not an adrenaline junkie, and if I steal low value items or small amounts of money every now and again consciously I am not a kleptomaniac.
If everyone who does not think like me is "bad" I am an ass.

HungLikeJesus · 03-20-2007, 01:44 PM

The poll is prejudiced, with three negative words in the title (Which is worse, booze or pot?). Alcohol and marijuana both have demonstrated positive benefits at the right doses (e.g. Cannabis extract shrinks brain tumours: http://www.newscientisttech.com/arti...5&nsref=dn6283)

If you asked the question as "Which is better, alcohol or cannabis?" I think that you would get a different result. Of course, that would lead to the debate "Better for what?"

busterb · 03-20-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Therefore it doesn't really apply in a discussion about pot and alcohol.

Notice the lame smilie below the post?

View Poll Results: Which is worse for an individual and society?
Alcohol	34	91.89%
Marijuana	3	8.11%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

03-20-2007, 02:03 AM	#62
bluesdave Getting older every day Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 308	I could not find a movie, but there are some "guys" writing gay episodes of Trek: http://www.newvoyages.com/. I don't know if this is the same group of people that I was referring to. __________________ History is a great teacher; it is a shame that people never learn from it.

03-20-2007, 07:22 AM	#66
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	What's the difference between a drunk and a junkie? They'll both steal your billfold. But the junkie will help you hunt it. bb 75 __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

03-20-2007, 01:44 PM	#74
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	The poll is prejudiced, with three negative words in the title (Which is worse, booze or pot?). Alcohol and marijuana both have demonstrated positive benefits at the right doses (e.g. Cannabis extract shrinks brain tumours: http://www.newscientisttech.com/arti...5&nsref=dn6283) If you asked the question as "Which is better, alcohol or cannabis?" I think that you would get a different result. Of course, that would lead to the debate "Better for what?" __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

03-20-2007, 07:27 AM	#67
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	define junkie.

03-20-2007, 12:27 PM	#70
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Therefore it doesn't really apply in a discussion about pot and alcohol.

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