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Old 03-19-2007, 04:06 PM   #1
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Curling fucking rules...I will someday play on the US Olympic Curling Team.
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:34 PM   #2
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Flint, your post reminded me of this fine piece of work from Donald Rumsfeld:

As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don't know
We don't know.


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Old 03-19-2007, 04:36 PM   #3
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Flint, your post reminded me of this fine piece of work from Donald Rumsfeld:

As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don't know
We don't know.


That quote has been utilized at many scientific conferences; The Skeptic in Scientific American did a piece on it.
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:43 PM   #4
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There should be European historical societies for Gaelics, Celtics, Irish, Scots, Welsh, etc, to show their pride and network.

We need to bring back men's clubs.

There should be a men's only gym like Curves and it needs to be announced up front that if anyone goes after it Curves will be attacked immediately.

If someone feels guns should be outlawed, they also must agree that all fattening foods should be monitored by law and no car should be produced that can drive over the speed limit and tobacco should be outlawed as well as anything else that kills. These people do not believe in freedom. I also wonder what they feel should be done with overpopulated animal populations and for farmers that need side-arms for protection from snakes and other animals?

Capitol punishment is murder, period.

Telling a child that if they sin they will go to hell is child abuse.

It is not the state's place to tell someone who owns a store or restaurant that they cannot let people smoke or drink on their private property. If you don't like it, don't shop/eat there. If it hurts their business, they will stop allowing it, but allowing it is their constitutional right. That is their property. Life is not about you and what you like.
Freedom means being free to be around others who express their freedoms as well. The freedom to be offended or go somewhere else.

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Old 03-19-2007, 06:10 PM   #5
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American and European farm subsidies should be abolished because they do nothing more than perpetuate inefficient farming practices and shut out cheaper products produced elsewhere.

Corporate welfare should be abolished. If a corporation wants money from a government, the funds should be in exchange for a stake in the corporation, just like the real world.

People should be encouraged or discouraged from having children in accordance to their degree of natural resistance to common diseases.

Unpaid overtime is slavery.

Steam powered vehicles - direct-drive and steam-electric hybrids - are viable transportation options for the future. Many governments suppress them because they can run well on various untaxed fuels.

Nuclear power creates some of the most dangerous industrial waste known. Anyone that misrepresents it as clean should volunteer to keep some high-level radioactive waste in their own homes and find out for themselves just how unclean it can be.

Global warming from carbon dioxide is real and we should take measures to combat it. Many people who dismiss it do so because they have connections to the fossil fuel industry.

Action taken to combat global warming should be seen as an insurance policy for the planet. Even if we do not collect on the insurance, it would be money well spent because we would be developing renewable energy technologies that we would still be using when all the fossil fuels run out.
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Old 03-20-2007, 07:56 AM   #6
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American and European farm subsidies should be abolished because they do nothing more than perpetuate inefficient farming practices and shut out cheaper products produced elsewhere.
I agree. The EU currently pays farmers millions to NOT produce food. The Common Agricultural Policy needs revising.
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:00 AM   #7
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There should be European historical societies for Gaelics, Celtics, Irish, Scots, Welsh, etc, to show their pride and network.
Your neighborhood doesn't have an Ancient Order of Hibernians?
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:37 PM   #8
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Old 03-20-2007, 12:59 AM   #9
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Radar has a sense of humor.
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:47 PM   #10
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I dont disagree with cannibalism.

I would prefer to kill a (bad) human than a nice animal.

I prefer 2 min noodles to a steak.

i enjoy stress and drama and think that all relationships should have a time limit of 12 months to keep things interesting.
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:58 PM   #11
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If you marry/select a life-partner in the ceremony of your choice, you are committing to a lifetime partnership. All your assets should be merged and shared, your voice and your input should be equal. There should be no secrets. If you find you've made a mistake later on, fine, dissolve the partnership, split the assets, but preparing for that moment with prenups/separate bank accounts etc before you even make the commitment is proof that the commitment isn't heartfelt.
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:59 PM   #12
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Hybrids pollute much more from production to end than an equivalent gasoline-only vehicle.

Religion is the easy way out of asking difficult questions and being confronted by complicated issues.

Consumer culture is an addiction and a destructive disease.

We are afraid only because the news tells us to be.
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:20 AM   #13
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Affirmative action levels the playing field, it does not give minorities an edge.
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Old 03-20-2007, 03:03 PM   #14
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Affirmative action levels the playing field, it does not give minorities an edge.
That is why someone who had half my GPA, with no community service or student government involvement received a scholarship to Yale instead of me? Level playing field?
Not even close.
You should have heard the distain the woman had when she told me about it, something she was not supposed to do.
At my office if someone was promoted with less education, less experience and less training they received how much respect? I bet you can guess.
It harms the minorities it does not help them.
It furthers the idea that they cannot do it on their own.
The club that I was involved in in college that is, predominantly, about helping blacks in school and after they get out of school feels this way as well. Affirmative action is harmful and degrading.
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Old 03-20-2007, 03:47 PM   #15
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That is why someone who had half my GPA, with no community service or student government involvement received a scholarship to Yale instead of me? Level playing field?
In admissions, affirmative action was really "improve the predictive validity of GPA, SAT, and other scoring systems used in the admissions process". The idea was not that colleges needed to correct racial percentages (although it was noted to be a positive side affect), but that the standardized testing methods used prior to college, when viewed statistically, held a bias that created errors and did not correctly predict university performance for certain populations of students. Your GPA and SAT scores predict how well you will do at a university and the concept is that, statistically, someone from a specific population set will perform better than you in equal classes despite having the exact same GPA and SAT score thanks to those predictive errors. The awarding of scholarships followed the same logic.

Is there evidence to support this is true? Well...

The study could easily be done, so there might be. Students that were enrolled under affirmative action test score correction had to take the same courses in college that their classmates did. If affirmative action at universities was truly flawed, then graduation and dropout rates should be very telling.
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