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Old 03-29-2007, 05:01 PM   #1
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We are not, and never have been a Christian nation.
It is a long standing lie.
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Old 03-29-2007, 05:39 PM   #2
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Hey, I haven't yet called you an asshole. I haven't even been mean. And my "mean" can be withering, just ask anybody here. I did notice that (the collective) you were quite active in my brief absence; terrific. And I did not and do not want to get into a pissing match with you. That's not why I'm here, and as much (not so much) as I speak "for the cellar", it's not why we're all here.

But, dayum, man. You're new here, y'know? You *just might* be all that and a bag of chips. But. You started off on the wrong foot. That might have been your good foot, but it's ... just not appropriate. Do you wear your crampons on the dance floor? It was kind of like that. And it's not even your dance floor (yet). You're so new. At least Flint has a year on you and I'm a pup compared to some of the methuselahs still posting.

And **all** we have to go on, really, are your posts. They were combative, not constructive. They were rude, not respectful. They were ignorant, not insightful. We responded to that. Maybe you are an asshole, maybe not. I reserve judgment; time and your posts will tell. If you stick around.

And if you do stick around, and I hope you do, you will learn that the cellar is the most stable, most genuine meritocracy you will ever be a part of. I guarantee it, or I will personally refund double your money back.
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Old 03-29-2007, 05:54 PM   #3
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And I did not and do not want to get into a pissing match with you. That's not why I'm here, and as much (not so much) as I speak "for the cellar", it's not why we're all here..
Me neither. Never saw it that way. Just responding to the questions (often leading, which I would not allow them to do) posed, mostly in the political and current events, which is where you will find me mostly. I was looking for exchange, not a full frontal liberal assualt just because my views are different. But an exchange is not what I got. So whatever. I will stick around.
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Old 03-29-2007, 06:00 PM   #4
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--snip--Just responding to the questions (often leading, which I would not allow them to do) posed, mostly in the political and current events, which is where you will find me mostly. --snip--.
Style point: You don't get to permit or deny the questions, leading or otherwise.
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Old 03-29-2007, 07:43 PM   #5
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Style point: You don't get to permit or deny the questions, leading or otherwise.
I have the freedom to answer what I desire and as I see fit. No one can control the questioner or the person answering.
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:01 AM   #6
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I have the freedom to answer what I desire and as I see fit. No one can control the questioner or the person answering.
By all means, please, be my guest. It's what make the world go around, around here.
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Just responding to the questions (often leading, which I would not allow them to do) posed, mostly in the political and current events, which is where you will find me mostly.
Did you misspeak or did I misunderstand? Please clarify what you mean when you say you won't permit leading questions, and justify it, if you can.
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:08 AM   #7
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WalMart is the anti-christ.
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:04 AM   #8
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WalMart is the anti-christ.
Right on, sister! Tell it!
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:19 PM   #9
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WalMart is the anti-christ.
When someone other than the antichrist starts carrying adult diapers* for less than $15 a pack, let me know.



*they're for momWolf, not me. Really.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:59 PM   #10
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Walmart isn't the devil, captialism is the devil. Walmart is just playing smart capitalism.
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Old 03-31-2007, 12:05 AM   #11
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captialism is the devil.
You're a college student, aren't ya?
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Old 04-01-2007, 12:31 AM   #12
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You're a college student, aren't ya?
How did you guess....

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Capitalism is the devil? Please, tell me what is better (that still rewards those who work harder, smarter and inventors... and I mean not stealing from those who save, work harder/more and smarter or those who buy land).
Leaving out the fact that evil is relative, just because something works doesn't mean it isn't evil. Capitalism encourages just about every evil we see right now and it brings out the worst in people. Do you think there would be a war in Iraq if it wasn't for capitalism? Do you think there would be massive immigration to America if it wasn't for capitalism?

Capitalism works, no one should deny that, but to think that capitalism doesn't create evil is just as foolish.
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:02 AM   #13
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How did you guess....
That youthful optimism...capitalism evil...damn The Man!
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:01 PM   #14
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How did you guess....


Leaving out the fact that evil is relative, just because something works doesn't mean it isn't evil. Capitalism encourages just about every evil we see right now and it brings out the worst in people. Do you think there would be a war in Iraq if it wasn't for capitalism? Do you think there would be massive immigration to America if it wasn't for capitalism?

Capitalism works, no one should deny that, but to think that capitalism doesn't create evil is just as foolish.
I don't believe in evil.
The middle east would be and will be a theocracy and at war without capitalism and the west, it is their hobby.
Capitalism is not relevant to war in the east, we are just playing in their sandbox (no pun intended, but pleased with it).
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:05 PM   #15
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I don't believe in evil.
I know, good and evil are relative but I was talking about evil in our society's morals and ethical code. To the Western ethical code, capitalism is evil.

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The middle east would be and will be a theocracy and at war without capitalism and the west, it is their hobby.
Capitalism is not relevant to war in the east, we are just playing in their sandbox (no pun intended, but pleased with it).
Can you please explain further, I am not following?

Except for world order, I can't think of a way that doesn't resort to capitalism or an aftereffect of capitalism.
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