Generation Q - Page 5

DanaC · 10-25-2007, 07:51 PM

Oh most certainly.

Urbane Guerrilla · 10-25-2007, 10:56 PM

"Oh, er. Rather!"

[/Bertie Wooster, Upperclass English Something of the Year]

Urbane Guerrilla · 10-25-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

. . .of course UG tends to express himself (and indeed seems to hold views) with a greater than normal level of intensity, so it tends to stand out a little more when he does it. Just my take on it.

Well, those views that I hold intensely I write about with passion. Stuff that's milder or more abstract, that gets a milder treatment.

Ibby · 10-26-2007, 12:18 AM

YOU WATCH JEEVES AND WOOSTER?!

RUWIALVNKSDGHVBASLIUVKB <3 STEPHEN FRY
though hugh laurie isnt nearly as cute as wooster as he is as house...

Cicero · 10-26-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Having an opinion on another country, and clarifying what one considers to be the pertinent points in the discussion is very different to holding yourself up as a representative of that country and the views/character of its people.

Then why is it so hard for me to give an opinion of England without being told in no uncertain terms that I am an American with double-standards?

toranokaze · 10-26-2007, 04:04 PM

Unless you have two different opinions on the same matter I don't see the contradiction myself.

DanaC · 10-26-2007, 06:29 PM

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Then why is it so hard for me to give an opinion of England without being told in no uncertain terms that I am an American with double-standards?

My point referred solely to the idea that Aliantha was speaking for the English. You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine, I am of the opinion that much that has been said by some of the American dwellar contingent, about my country and about their own, displays in my view a double standard. When I tell you I believe you are operating on that double standard, I am not saying you don't have a right to that opinion.

You suggested that when ali posted about england she was speaking for the english (in response to her comment about UG speaking for Americans). Actually she was just expressing a contrary point of view to yours, which was based on her insights, themselves born of living in a country with fairly similar attitudes to some things.

When I said that some american posters had posted things that I considered to be based on a double standard I was not referring to all Americans, merely that I had noticed a pattern with several American posters, in terms of their attitude to British approaches to law and order. I stand by that .

Don't get me wrong though, I am not angered by your comments, nor do I think you should cease making them. This is the nature of debate and I enjoy debating with you. Occassionally you post things which are fairly forceful, not necessarily in tone, but certainly in terms of the view expressed. Occassionally I will respond with equally forceful views. I hope though, that my tone is not unpleasant.

*smiles* it's all good.

queequeger · 10-26-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

My point referred solely to the idea that Aliantha was speaking for the English.

Well... all y'all talk funny.

Aliantha · 10-27-2007, 01:21 AM

Everyone talks funny

Perry Winkle · 10-27-2007, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

YOU WATCH JEEVES AND WOOSTER?!

RUWIALVNKSDGHVBASLIUVKB <3 STEPHEN FRY
though hugh laurie isnt nearly as cute as wooster as he is as house...

Ever seen QI? Great show.

Urbane Guerrilla · 10-27-2007, 04:28 AM

An episode or two, but mainly I check the Wodehouse books out of the library from time to time.

I'm getting the idea that poor Bertie may actually be brighter than anyone gives him credit for -- though indeed he's no good at the humanities, and he really doesn't have anything which keeps his intellect in training, such as it is. Maybe he was better at math. Wisdom -- well, there he's short: his relatives and friends, aged- and bosom-, lead him into all manner of, well, scrapes.

DanaC · 10-27-2007, 06:11 AM

I love Wodehouse. Jeeves and Wooster is class in a glass.

Ibby · 10-27-2007, 07:34 AM

It took me quite a few tries to watch the first one - it's SO densely, compactly, alienly British that it almost sounded like a foreign language to me.
I still have trouble keeping up with a lot of the... cultural cues, but I manage.

But damn, british names are reeeal funky.

DanaC · 10-27-2007, 11:48 AM

Mmm...Wodehouse really isn't an accurate representation of British names Ibby:P

Urbane Guerrilla · 10-28-2007, 10:03 PM

More of an affectionate parody. An exercise in sustained absurdity in each book.

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10-27-2007, 04:28 AM	#71
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	An episode or two, but mainly I check the Wodehouse books out of the library from time to time. I'm getting the idea that poor Bertie may actually be brighter than anyone gives him credit for -- though indeed he's no good at the humanities, and he really doesn't have anything which keeps his intellect in training, such as it is. Maybe he was better at math. Wisdom -- well, there he's short: his relatives and friends, aged- and bosom-, lead him into all manner of, well, scrapes. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

10-25-2007, 07:51 PM	#61
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Oh most certainly.

10-27-2007, 06:11 AM	#72
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	I love Wodehouse. Jeeves and Wooster is class in a glass.

10-27-2007, 07:34 AM	#73
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	It took me quite a few tries to watch the first one - it's SO densely, compactly, alienly British that it almost sounded like a foreign language to me. I still have trouble keeping up with a lot of the... cultural cues, but I manage. But damn, british names are reeeal funky. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

10-27-2007, 11:48 AM	#74
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Mmm...Wodehouse really isn't an accurate representation of British names Ibby:P

10-28-2007, 10:03 PM	#75
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	More of an affectionate parody. An exercise in sustained absurdity in each book. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

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