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So what happens when these top contributors are no longer around?
Adam Lerrick's "Obama and The Tax Tipping Point" (op-ed, Oct. 22) notes that we are fast approaching the point at which those who don't pay any federal income tax will be a majority of the electorate and have the electoral muscle to affect programs paid for by taxes from the other half of the society. A rallying cry in the founding of our nation was "no taxation without representation." But when the tax structure is so progressive that half the population can create programs that are paid for by taxing the other half, we have reached the point of "representation without taxation" and turned our founding principles on their head. We are currently witnessing a polarizing presidential campaign that promises to confiscate the earnings of 5% of the population to buy the votes of the other 95%. Am I the only member of the 95% who is offended by the idea that it is acceptable in America to confiscate another's earnings for my own comfort? What irony to criticize the "greed" of Wall Street bankers while voting for easy money taken from others. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122524034781878381.html
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Speaking of media bias... (not the systemic kind, just one really, absurdly horrific example someone sent me last night: )
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Lookout, where did you get your figures from??? They dont match my family of four's reality.
In the last two years, we have paid roughly, on average, $5,000 tax on $50,000 net income. And, on top of that, we have paid roughly $8,000 a year in other taxes. AND, I dont even consider myself middle class, or maybe just barely.... we dont have a lot of money to buy toys or other 'extras' in life...if we do, we have to do it on credit. And another thing...those 40-50% who dont pay taxes (if accurate) are the working poor! Families trying to make it on minimum wage. There are an awful lot of them. |
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Ok so you all say that the "richest 5%" are going to pay about $600 a year more on average under Obama's plan and "redistribute this to the other 95%. Lets forget the tax cuts for he lower end for a moment. Simple math says that comes out to about +$31.58 per taxpayer for the "other 95%"? Is that correct?
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"Confiscate"
"Redistribute" "For my own comfort" Tell me this isn't polarization, in itself. When I hear words like these I totally lose interest in anything the speaker has to say. |
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http://www.american.com/archive/2007...pays-the-taxes
This supports the notion put forth by the WSJ article. Conclusion These findings raise serious questions about the future of the U.S. income tax system, and the possibility of base-broadening tax reform when the majority of the federal tax burden is borne by a shrinking pool of taxpayers. As Congress considers tax reform proposals during the coming year, this is an issue lawmakers should begin to debate. http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/1410.html The WSJ article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122524034781878381.html
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You don't like the way Obama talks about his plan for America?!?! You might want to try to figure it out.
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NOT mentioned in those articles is that the top 1-5% of income earners are making their money off the labors of the bottom 95%.
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Any polarization that is happening is coming from the right. O'bama's message is getting twisted and transformed in order to strike fear in the hearts of those who arent even going to be affected by any of it.
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And that they pay the salaries of those 95% so they can actually feed their families and pay the mortgage. But yea, we call it capitalism.
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I can't believe you really think that is true. But you entitled to your opinion. Both sides of this have extremists who have contributed to the polarization. There is no evidence to support that one side is worse than the other.
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