The Second Coming (of bailouts)

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I guess it is safe to assume that you dont want to address the issue of the "lost decade" or offer a better solution to long-term economy recovery.

No more than as you refuse to address the issue of Bacus using an Insurance insider to craft the Senate Bill.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

They still existed in my middle and high school. A shop class was required in 6th and 7th grade, and then optional in 8th, 10th, 11th, or 12th.

We also had cooking, sewing, personal finance, and other classes like that. My high school has gone to complete shit since I left so I don't know what they still have nowadays.

Must have been a pretty rich school district; where was it exactly so we can compare economic demographics?

[piercehawkeye45]

Middle class half suburb half rural school outside Milwaukee. Wasn't rich compared to some surrounding schools but was by no means poor.

[Griff]

The PA district I grew up in still has their shops. The ones I've seen in NY having been moving away from shop in favor of "technology" which is very light on hands-on work.

[SamIam]

My high school had shop for grades 10-12. We were the city high school while all the more better off tax payers were fleeing to the suburbs.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Griff

The PA district I grew up in still has their shops. The ones I've seen in NY having been moving away from shop in favor of "technology" which is very light on hands-on work.

All the schools seem to have Computer based labs and classes. That really should become mandatory for any kid moving through HS today. But they are just giving the kids who really have no business in a college track no where to go.

[classicman]

All shops - wood, graphics & auto are still at our local high school.
I believe they are pretty common around here.

[TheMercenary]

So now the White House wants to pad their stats, even more than before...

STIMULUS WATCH: White House Changes Job-Count Rule

The White House has abandoned its controversial method of counting jobs under President Barack Obama's economic stimulus, making it impossible to track the number of jobs saved or created with the $787 billion in recovery money.

Despite mounting a vigorous defense of its earlier count of more than 640,000 jobs credited to the stimulus, even after numerous errors were identified, the Obama administration now is making it easier to give the stimulus credit for hiring. It's no longer about counting a job as saved or created; now it's a matter of counting jobs funded by the stimulus.

That means that any stimulus money used to cover payroll will be included in the jobs credited to the program, including pay raises for existing employees and pay for people who never were in jeopardy of losing their positions.

The new rules, quietly published last month in a memorandum to federal agencies, mark the White House's latest response to criticism about the way it counts jobs credited to the stimulus. When The Associated Press first reported flaws in the job counts in October, the White House said errors were being corrected and future counts would provide a full and correct accounting of just how many stimulus jobs were saved or created.

Numbers published later identified more than 640,000 jobs linked to stimulus projects around the country. The White House said the public could have confidence in those new numbers, which officials argued proved the administration was on track to keep Obama's promise that the stimulus would save or create 3.5 million jobs by the end of this year.

But more errors were found, with tens of thousands of problems documented in corrected counts, from the substantive to the clerical. Republicans have used those flaws to attack what so far is the signature domestic policy approved during Obama's presidency.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9543273