What to believe - Page 5

classicman · 03-16-2010, 09:31 AM

. . . or a plane

wanderer · 03-17-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

. . . or a plane

You might have mentioned Space Shuttle or even an UFO

xoxoxoBruce · 03-17-2010, 01:00 AM

But sooner or later you have to stop meditating and come back to reality. If you bring your vacation attitude back to your job, your job may not last.

Oh, and I haven't heard of any space shuttles or UFOs killing anybody on the beach.

wanderer · 03-17-2010, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

But sooner or later you have to stop meditating and come back to reality. If you bring your vacation attitude back to your job, your job may not last.

Oh, and I haven't heard of any space shuttles or UFOs killing anybody on the beach.

Neither I have heard about bears or planes killing anybody on the beach

Coming back to reality (perspective word), doesn't kill you anyways

xoxoxoBruce · 03-17-2010, 03:33 AM

That's because you didn't click on classicman's link. See what happens when you shut out input, you don't know what the fuck is going on.

Oh, and Bears on the beach... Alaska and Canada have lots of them.

classicman · 03-17-2010, 01:59 PM

But are they real or imagined? Leaving the "perception" out of the equation.

Oh and try again to click on the link so that you may understand the validity.

wanderer · 03-18-2010, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

But are they real or imagined? Leaving the "perception" out of the equation.

Oh and try again to click on the link so that you may understand the validity.

There's no point in anything being "real" once perception is left out of equation. But again, is perception too dependent on the five senses. Not going any ga-ga over "sixth sense". But it so often guides us in our sub-conscious mind.

classicman · 03-18-2010, 02:21 PM

What if your perception alters what reality really is.

Shawnee123 · 03-18-2010, 02:27 PM

Then that perception IS reality.

classicman · 03-18-2010, 03:35 PM

but thats just your perception of the reality that isn't the real reality.

Shawnee123 · 03-18-2010, 03:39 PM

Your perception is your reality. I don't know that the color I call "red" looks the same to me as it does to you. However, humans have agreed to what "red" is. Therefore, it doesn't matter if your red is my green, the reality is that it is red. We can perceive this reality differently, but that doesn't make it less real.

Or, something.

classicman · 03-18-2010, 05:02 PM

lol - but your perception may not be reality. Try that analogy with a statement like "I can fly..."

Wait - don't try that. We'll all be overrun by the hobos.

Flint · 03-18-2010, 05:18 PM

Did anyone buy my book yet?

Well, I'll admit the cover pretty much gives it away...

Lamplighter · 07-29-2012, 03:00 PM

"Coincidence" is one of my favorite words.
So is it coincidence that the shelling of Aleppo, Syria is in the news
now along with this article in the NY Times about the "Aleppo Codex" ?

It's a long (9-pages) article, and I admit I didn't known anything about the Codex.
But it's an intriguing story... worth reading.

NY Times
RONEN BERGMAN
7/29/12

A High Holy Whodunit

Quote:

As a small group of us stood in a circle inside the vault in which the [Aleppo] codex now resides,
Michael Maggen, the head of the museum’s paper-conservation lab,
donned a pair of gloves and carefully lifted one of its unbound pages,
covered with three columns of beautiful calligraphy, for us to see.
The pages were made from animal hides that were stretched and bleached and cut to make parchment
the scribe’s ink was made of powdered tree galls mixed with iron sulfate and black soot.

“Considering the difficult conditions that the manuscript suffered over a great many years,” James Snyder,
the museum’s director, said, “it is in remarkably excellent condition.”
Snyder was happy to talk about how fortunate the museum was to be able to display the codex
alongside the 2,000-year-old Dead Sea Scrolls and about the painstaking restoration that has taken place.

But he refused to speculate on the sensitive question of where the missing pages,
which constitute about 40 percent of the codex and whose value is estimated to be
in the many millions of dollars, might be and how they might have disappeared.
<snip>

I did a simple search of Cellar postings for "codex" and found only one in 2004 that might have a connection

Griff · 07-29-2012, 03:23 PM

Coincidentally, I'm reading Warriors of God. Aleppo was the last independent fief Saladin conquered before opening a can o' whup ass on the Crusaders. I get nervous when the cultural elite start pimping the moral necessity of war.

03-16-2010, 09:31 AM	#1
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	. . . or a plane __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-17-2010, 01:00 AM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	But sooner or later you have to stop meditating and come back to reality. If you bring your vacation attitude back to your job, your job may not last. Oh, and I haven't heard of any space shuttles or UFOs killing anybody on the beach. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-17-2010, 03:33 AM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That's because you didn't click on classicman's link. See what happens when you shut out input, you don't know what the fuck is going on. Oh, and Bears on the beach... Alaska and Canada have lots of them. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-17-2010, 01:59 PM	#6
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	But are they real or imagined? Leaving the "perception" out of the equation. Oh and try again to click on the link so that you may understand the validity. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-18-2010, 02:21 PM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	What if your perception alters what reality really is. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-18-2010, 02:27 PM	#9
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Then that perception IS reality. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-18-2010, 03:35 PM	#10
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	but thats just your perception of the reality that isn't the real reality. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-18-2010, 03:39 PM	#11
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Your perception is your reality. I don't know that the color I call "red" looks the same to me as it does to you. However, humans have agreed to what "red" is. Therefore, it doesn't matter if your red is my green, the reality is that it is red. We can perceive this reality differently, but that doesn't make it less real. Or, something. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-18-2010, 05:02 PM	#12
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	lol - but your perception may not be reality. Try that analogy with a statement like "I can fly..." Wait - don't try that. We'll all be overrun by the hobos. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-18-2010, 05:18 PM	#13
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Did anyone buy my book yet? Well, I'll admit the cover pretty much gives it away... __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

07-29-2012, 03:23 PM	#15
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Coincidentally, I'm reading Warriors of God. Aleppo was the last independent fief Saladin conquered before opening a can o' whup ass on the Crusaders. I get nervous when the cultural elite start pimping the moral necessity of war. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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