deck - Page 5

jimhelm · 08-20-2011, 12:24 AM

and there's 12 of them

classicman · 08-20-2011, 12:27 AM

Lookin real good Jim - the deck, not you. - Hang the effers and then charge the batteries for a zillion deckboards...

jimhelm · 08-20-2011, 12:29 AM

I have to get the thing inspected once it's framed. If it would stop raining.... I had to quit at 5 today because of MORE rain.

Spexxvet · 08-20-2011, 08:25 AM

Jim, are you going to put a post under the header attatched to the house?

jimhelm · 08-20-2011, 08:57 AM

yes. I had designed it with 3 6X6es along there, but I'm thinking that one in each corner will suffice. Attaching that center post would be tricky. I'd need a damn near 20 inch bolt to go through the post, the header and the house. Or angle brackets.... I think it'll hold. here... hold my beer.

jimhelm · 08-25-2011, 03:59 PM

I spent most of my day yesterday working on the deck...

I had one of the kids from the detail dept over for a couple hours helping me hang the girder. I doubled up 2x10s on both sides of the post. This will support the middle of the joists. The ends tuck up inside the outer 2x12 cedar boards on the outside, but sit under the inner 2x10 treated boards. More support for the load bearing sides.

The pictures here are taken before I put the bolts in. There are 2 12" bolts running through both girders and the 6x6 posts. I also put the post in the background of the 1st pic in and bolted it to the side of the deck (up by the house) There's one on each side (spex)... I have more pics at home on my camera...these were on my phone... I got the joists hung and saddled... the guy from the early pics will be going back and putting all the nails in tonight if the rain lets up. Then it gets inspected and I can start decking it. Bruce wants the decking diagonal (I opened my stupit mouth and said it would look cool) so... then the railing and stairs and THEN the party! w00t!

glatt · 08-25-2011, 04:07 PM

looking good!

tw · 08-25-2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

looking good!

I ballpark that deck uses wood designed to carry at least 9 tons. However I don't know if bolts are rated to carry that load. That might be the weak point.

9 tons is maybe 60 actively moving people.

jimhelm · 08-25-2011, 06:42 PM

the bolts are 5/8 x 9 around the edges and 5/8 x 12 in the girder. there are 2 bolts in each girder post. there are 3 in the corners and 2 in the front center post.

like this, but longer

ZenGum · 08-25-2011, 07:06 PM

Jim, that is an excellent looking deck, really well built...

... except for how that other doofus cocked up the footings. If I were living there that would really bug me. But I'm a bit OCD.

classicman · 08-25-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum

Jim, that is an excellent looking deck, really well built...

agreed.

Quote:

... except for how that other doofus cocked up the footings. If I were living there that would really bug me. But I'm a bit OCD.

You won't see them once the decking is installed.

BigV · 08-25-2011, 08:47 PM

I love it too jimhelm. Very well built.

You realize that in grifftopia though this would be the popsicle stick scale model...

jimhelm · 08-25-2011, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Jim, that is an excellent looking deck, really well built...

... except for how that other doofus cocked up the footings. If I were living there that would really bug me. But I'm a bit OCD.

That corner will be concealed by the stairs, actually. And I plan to box in the other pillars with leftover wood. Wendy can plant flowers or ferns in them.

Had a mis queue tonight. The guy that tacked the joists in tonight used interior nails instead of the 12p galvanized nails I had left there. So Bruce had to go back and pull them all.... Sigh. Do over.

Griff · 08-26-2011, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV

I love it too jimhelm. Very well built.

You realize that in grifftopia though this would be the popsicle stick scale model...

Ha! That is a beautiful deck and nicer than mine!

jimhelm · 08-27-2011, 10:22 PM

ok, so hanging the girder.... First I just nailed it up to set it in place. I had help with this part.

then i counter sink ( DO THIS FIRST!) using the big 1 1/4 paddle bit. the hole should be as deep as the washer and the head of the bolt so that it fits flush. thusly:

08-20-2011, 12:24 AM	#61
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	and there's 12 of them Attached Images __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

08-20-2011, 12:27 AM	#62
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Lookin real good Jim - the deck, not you. - Hang the effers and then charge the batteries for a zillion deckboards... __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-20-2011, 12:29 AM	#63
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	I have to get the thing inspected once it's framed. If it would stop raining.... I had to quit at 5 today because of MORE rain. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

08-20-2011, 08:25 AM	#64
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Jim, are you going to put a post under the header attatched to the house? __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

08-20-2011, 08:57 AM	#65
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	yes. I had designed it with 3 6X6es along there, but I'm thinking that one in each corner will suffice. Attaching that center post would be tricky. I'd need a damn near 20 inch bolt to go through the post, the header and the house. Or angle brackets.... I think it'll hold. here... hold my beer. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

08-25-2011, 03:59 PM	#66
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	I spent most of my day yesterday working on the deck... I had one of the kids from the detail dept over for a couple hours helping me hang the girder. I doubled up 2x10s on both sides of the post. This will support the middle of the joists. The ends tuck up inside the outer 2x12 cedar boards on the outside, but sit under the inner 2x10 treated boards. More support for the load bearing sides. The pictures here are taken before I put the bolts in. There are 2 12" bolts running through both girders and the 6x6 posts. I also put the post in the background of the 1st pic in and bolted it to the side of the deck (up by the house) There's one on each side (spex)... I have more pics at home on my camera...these were on my phone... I got the joists hung and saddled... the guy from the early pics will be going back and putting all the nails in tonight if the rain lets up. Then it gets inspected and I can start decking it. Bruce wants the decking diagonal (I opened my stupit mouth and said it would look cool) so... then the railing and stairs and THEN the party! w00t! Attached Images __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool Last edited by jimhelm; 08-25-2011 at 04:05 PM.

08-25-2011, 04:07 PM	#67
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	looking good!

08-25-2011, 06:42 PM	#69
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	the bolts are 5/8 x 9 around the edges and 5/8 x 12 in the girder. there are 2 bolts in each girder post. there are 3 in the corners and 2 in the front center post. like this, but longer __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

08-25-2011, 07:06 PM	#70
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Jim, that is an excellent looking deck, really well built... ... except for how that other doofus cocked up the footings. If I were living there that would really bug me. But I'm a bit OCD. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

08-25-2011, 08:47 PM	#72
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I love it too jimhelm. Very well built. You realize that in grifftopia though this would be the popsicle stick scale model... __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

08-27-2011, 10:22 PM	#75
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	ok, so hanging the girder.... First I just nailed it up to set it in place. I had help with this part. then i counter sink ( DO THIS FIRST!) using the big 1 1/4 paddle bit. the hole should be as deep as the washer and the head of the bolt so that it fits flush. thusly: Attached Images __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

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