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Old 03-14-2013, 05:42 PM   #61
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I just can't belive there ads for.drugs on tv in the US. We get ads for vitamins over here, but thats about it.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:35 PM   #62
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This article pretty much describes what is happening to the health care system in this country. I am so glad that people like Ortho make the effort to get through med school and become doctors. The truth is they will soon be overwhelmed .

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Old 03-14-2013, 06:42 PM   #63
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That just reads like an anti-nationalised healthcare polemic.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:47 PM   #64
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What good is nationalized health care if its not available to everyone? You don't think people should be in charge of their own health?
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:37 PM   #65
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I just can't belive there ads for.drugs on tv in the US. We get ads for vitamins over here, but thats about it.
They are unbelievable! And VERY snnoying.



OK so I was thinking about this and I must exclude most (but by no means all) nurses and paramedics from my sweeping statement. but the doctors stay. especially the ones who feel the need to tell everyone they're a doctor. Ii have a good friend who's a shrink. I didn't find out for years and realized that still very few people at our kids' school know -and it's a close-knit community.
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:47 PM   #66
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Nobody is forced to go to the doctor, nobody is forced treatment.
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:27 PM   #67
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nobody is forcing you to post, either :p
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:49 PM   #68
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Wrong, my doctor and insurance rep are standing here with a gun and a knife... Big Pharma is waiting in the limo. That's why I had to respond to,
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Old 03-15-2013, 05:54 AM   #69
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har. and also what I came back to post. If you want to be emplyed and support your family and see doctors for other things, insurance companies are dictation that you will see doctors and jump through their hoops.

Still too angry (not good for me) and busy (ditto) to wrrelate exactly what prompted this, but MNGH!
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:51 AM   #70
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doctors, insurance companies would be my first two guesses. :P
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Old 03-15-2013, 03:16 PM   #71
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I'm sorry to hear that you're battling with the doctors monster. I hope you prevail.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:48 PM   #72
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Monster, you put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up. Put the lime in the coconut and drink 'em both together. You put the lime in the coconut, you're such a silly one. Put the lime in the coconut and you'll feel better. Put the lime in the coconut and call me in the morning.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:11 PM   #73
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see can't even post straight when sober. PT gave me even more reason to be cross yesterday (She's fine, but more dictates from god that are showing not to be in my best interest -in the way I had been worried about)
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Old 03-16-2013, 08:10 PM   #74
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I've been through the wringer with sub-standard medical care. In 2005 I was in a polish hospital and no one spoke English. But I got better care there than I do from the VA. Here's how I cope - the doctors work for me. Make me wait more than 30 minutes, I walk out. I file complaints with the patient advocates if they try to speak down to me or even tell them to fuck off. Always remember, they work for you. They are not gods and are essentially the same as an automobile mechanic, what with all the computers and fancy electronics on cars.

apologies to you, ortho. I would love to have you as a physician. please don't take this rant as an affront on you. sometimes in these sub standard care situations, I make the decision what is best for me and I don't have to do anything a doctor says like take more of this fucking m-something chemo crap that makes me sicker than the frigging tumors do.

whew. got that off my chest
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