the difference between 17 and 18 - Page 5

glatt · 03-04-2005, 09:06 AM

Contrary to what some might lead you to believe, under the new standard set by the Supreme Court, it would still be illegal for three teenagers to lure a fourth to an isolated spot, kill, and rob him.

Troubleshooter · 03-04-2005, 09:34 AM

True, but now the courts get to rehash the life v juvenile life issue and whether it's cruel and unusual for states with 'life means life' statutes is a valid way to deal with someone for the next 60 years.

tw · 03-04-2005, 06:07 PM

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Did you read the part where I said how pretty you are?

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Oh, I thought you were talking about lookout when I read that part...

Did I forget to mention the time when Lookout123 and I served together in Her Magesty's Navy? (provided by The Economist of 26 Feb 2005 - for credibility).

tw · 03-04-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

... I heard a story about three locally infamous teenagers who lured a fourth to an isolated spot, then beat him to death and robbed his corpse and celebrated. And they did it for the thrill. I suspect KYW (local news station) was doing a little editorializing by their story placement, as my immediate reaction was "and THAT is why we need the death penalty for minors".

If capital punishment is to deter crime, well the difference between capital punishment verses jail must be understood by the perpetrator. Kids get shot and are complete surprised that it hurts. Why then would fear of the death penalty be any deterrent? If they don't even understand people actually die - or suffer pain - when shot; then how is capital punishment suppose to be any more effective than jail?

Yes, differences of brains between teenagers and adults is that significant.

Troubleshooter · 03-04-2005, 06:24 PM

Well, we could bring back the death penalty as a follow up to flogging.

If flogging doesn't instill a fear of pain or consequences, nothing will.

That way if they fuck up sufficiently again, they will be in a position to understand the conswquences.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-04-2005, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

Did I forget to mention the time when Lookout123 and I served together in Her Magesty's Navy? (provided by The Economist of 26 Feb 2005 - for credibility).

What happened to don't ask/don't tell? Oh...Brit Navy...nevermind.

wolf · 03-05-2005, 12:43 AM

I actually had to go back and check to make sure that was the real tw that posted that, rather than his evil twin tw.

OnyxCougar · 03-06-2005, 11:03 AM

I think his password has been compromised.

lookout123 · 03-06-2005, 11:26 AM

now tw, that was funny. congratulations.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-06-2005, 01:07 PM

And you thought he was just another pretty face.

Trilby · 03-06-2005, 02:47 PM

Did tw read the part where I said he was pretty?

tw · 03-06-2005, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

I think his password has been compromised.

ah' believe ya' gots' discuverd whos ah' really am. 'S coo', g'rl.

03-04-2005, 09:34 AM	#62
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	True, but now the courts get to rehash the life v juvenile life issue and whether it's cruel and unusual for states with 'life means life' statutes is a valid way to deal with someone for the next 60 years. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

03-04-2005, 06:24 PM	#65
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Well, we could bring back the death penalty as a follow up to flogging. If flogging doesn't instill a fear of pain or consequences, nothing will. That way if they fuck up sufficiently again, they will be in a position to understand the conswquences. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

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glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Contrary to what some might lead you to believe, under the new standard set by the Supreme Court, it would still be illegal for three teenagers to lure a fourth to an isolated spot, kill, and rob him.

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