Contra-Contraception - Page 6

Elspode · 09-28-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Abomination is not sin.

Obviously, I should have placed the "sarcasm" tags in my statement...

09-28-2006, 03:30 PM

So, it "bothers you" that they are not assuming the percentage of risk that comes with whatever form of contraception they are using, basically?

Trilby · 09-28-2006, 03:32 PM

Sex is risky, life is risky....

Sheesh.

09-28-2006, 03:39 PM

Ok. Got it. I'm pretty dense sometimes.

I don't worry about other's shit. Just added stress I don't need.

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Originally Posted by Elspode

Obviously, I should have placed the "sarcasm" tags in my statement...

Yeah, I totally did not get that.

Trilby · 09-28-2006, 03:55 PM

why is no one talking about epididymitis?

I had valid points!

(i did!*)
*having to do with the general wussiness of men in the face of real pain. birth=pain. ergo--men would AVOID birth. why no hate over this?

Shawnee123 · 09-28-2006, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

why is no one talking about epididymitis?

I had valid points!

(i did!*)
*having to do with the general wussiness of men in the face of real pain. birth=pain. ergo--men would AVOID birth. why no hate over this?

Because Bri, I am constantly on my soapbox about that very thing. Like, you don't see them testing for testicular cancer by squishing dude's balls in a vice then taking a picture (and that ultrasounds are way more effective in detecting early breast cancer, but because of the cost insurance companies don't cover it as a first stop.) Or about Viagra being covered but not birth control. Or a multitude of other like issues.

Do you think tampons would be 6-7 bucks a box if men needed them? Do you think pantyhose would cost a fortune and last two minutes if men needed them?

I LOVE me some men, don't get me wrong. But we know there are inequities.

So, I'm with ya, sister!

morethanpretty · 09-28-2006, 05:32 PM

epididymitis: the inflamation of ???

Ibby · 09-28-2006, 05:40 PM

Shawnee, 9th ISN'T being misogynistic. I'm all for gender equality (and, personally, think of little distinction between the two, cept for equipment), but bitching ISN'T gender-specific, and I believe that he DID just pick two tasks at random. Logically, the non-person in the example is EITHER male or female, so why is it WRONG to say its female but NOT wrong to say its male?

Though he could have been totally un-gender-specific... but meh.

Shawnee123 · 10-02-2006, 12:19 PM

Nah, I'm pretty real.

Why do misogynists always lean on the term feminist?

9th Engineer · 10-02-2006, 01:40 PM

If you're going to say I hate women in general (that's what the term means) then you'd better back it up. What I say I apply to both genders, so because I hold men and women to the same set of standards I hate women?? Equality goes both ways.

Misogyny has nothing to do with what I'm saying, I've made that abundantly clear.

Shawnee123 · 10-02-2006, 01:44 PM

Thanks for explaining to me what the term means. I had forgotten the old episodes of Wordsmith, and how to decipher a word by its latin roots...

Perhaps it's that I just don't like you. You've made nothing abundantly clear; you think that you have, but you have an underlying tone that just can't be ignored.

Maybe you just need to get laid.

9th Engineer · 10-02-2006, 01:56 PM

Ah yes, that must be the problem. It's like a Christian telling you that the only reason you disagree with him is that you've never let Jesus into your heart. I don't care one way or the other if you like me or not, but if you disagree with what I say then address it instead of making it personal.
I repeated the definition because it boggles my mind that you could infer that I actually hate women from what I've said. You'd be better off saying I hate both men AND women, you'd still be wrong, but it's a hell of a lot closer than saying I just hate women.

Flint · 10-02-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

It's like a Christian telling you that the only reason you disagree with him is that you've never let Jesus into your heart.

Dude, is it "PC" to say that? Oh wait, you said Christians, not Muslims

Shawnee123 · 10-02-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

"My body finally decided it was fed up" ?? Yay, I just love how that clears everything up. For the medical record I'm curious to know if it stomped out the door or just scheduled some counselling.

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer/

Sounds like pretty brainless girl to me, she's such a dimwit that she needs EMERGENCY contraception from planned sex? I say she gets the pill because god help us if she procreates, in fact the best solution would probably be to make absolutely SURE she gets emergency contraception every time she has sex.

I stand by my assumption of the implications of your tone.

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Originally Posted by 9TH Engineer

if you disagree with what I say then address it instead of making it personal.

Why, when you never answer anything clearly unless it supports what you said? If you find an error in your judgment you let that point fall by the wayside. Here's where you and I started:

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
While it may not seem like that big off a deal it hinged on a gut reaction I picked up from my parents. Both my parents work(ed) in emergency medicine, so they had to learn to 'read through' patients to get as much information as they could. The ER does bad things to people, the doctors see people at their worst when they are under huge stresses, and as a result patients tend to lie, tell half-truths, and be extremely vauge. I've grown up hearing all the stories of this and now when I hear one I'm very skeptical of everything else you say. "My body decided it was fed up", is one of these, it gives no infomation but the patient will of course expect the doctor to know what in hell they're talking about. I'm not a doctor (I pray I'll never have to do clinical practice) so I'm not claiming this based on first person experience, but I grew up around it.

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I'm still trying to figure out why having PARENTS working in emergency medicine (Doctors? Nurses? Janitors? Insurance Agents? Attorneys? What?) makes you qualified to have any reaction, let alone a judgmental one. Your expertise in the area sounds purely anectodotal. My father drove heavy construction equipment, but I'm not jumping on a giant steam shovel anytime soon.

Oh, and dismissing a woman's assertations of negative effects of hormonal based medication, something you know nothing about and never will, sounds to me like part of the intricate roots from where misogyny continues to grow.

9th Engineer · 10-02-2006, 11:27 PM

I'll stick to my guns on the first quote but I'll concede that the second was the result of too quick a post after first impressions. Again, I think I vaguely mentioned the militancy of the feminist teachers at my highschool and the top of the blog brought back the memories (these were people even shawnee probably wouldn't call feminists, they were really that over the top psychotic and militant). I saw red and ranted so I'll take back those remarks.

I see no reason why my opinions are anecdotal, if your closest friend had a terrible experience with an abusive boss would you consider the warnings you learned from it anecdotal enough to dismiss? It's not all first person experiences, but the staff at our hospital was always close so I heard the same types of stories over and over again from all sorts of different people, I have no reason to disbelieve all of them. As for judgemental, I size people up and look at who they are as I listen to what they say, you can't separate what is said from who says it. I can't get alot of information about the speaker over the net so I tend to be extremely skeptical of anything connected with obvious strong bias, and you can't get more biased then a blog like that one.

09-28-2006, 05:32 PM	#7
morethanpretty Thats "Miss Zipper Neck" to you. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: little town (but not the littlest) in texas Posts: 2,957	epididymitis: the inflamation of ??? __________________ Addicts may suck dick for coke, but love came up with the idea to put a dick in there to begin with. -Jack O'Brien

09-28-2006, 05:40 PM	#8
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Shawnee, 9th ISN'T being misogynistic. I'm all for gender equality (and, personally, think of little distinction between the two, cept for equipment), but bitching ISN'T gender-specific, and I believe that he DID just pick two tasks at random. Logically, the non-person in the example is EITHER male or female, so why is it WRONG to say its female but NOT wrong to say its male? Though he could have been totally un-gender-specific... but meh. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

10-02-2006, 12:19 PM	#9
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Nah, I'm pretty real. Why do misogynists always lean on the term feminist? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

10-02-2006, 01:40 PM	#10
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	If you're going to say I hate women in general (that's what the term means) then you'd better back it up. What I say I apply to both genders, so because I hold men and women to the same set of standards I hate women?? Equality goes both ways. Misogyny has nothing to do with what I'm saying, I've made that abundantly clear. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

10-02-2006, 01:44 PM	#11
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Thanks for explaining to me what the term means. I had forgotten the old episodes of Wordsmith, and how to decipher a word by its latin roots... Perhaps it's that I just don't like you. You've made nothing abundantly clear; you think that you have, but you have an underlying tone that just can't be ignored. Maybe you just need to get laid. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

09-28-2006, 03:30 PM	#2
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	So, it "bothers you" that they are not assuming the percentage of risk that comes with whatever form of contraception they are using, basically?

09-28-2006, 03:32 PM	#3
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Sex is risky, life is risky.... Sheesh.

09-28-2006, 03:55 PM	#5
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	why is no one talking about epididymitis? I had valid points! (i did!) having to do with the general wussiness of men in the face of real pain. birth=pain. ergo--men would AVOID birth. why no hate over this?

10-02-2006, 01:56 PM	#12
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Ah yes, that must be the problem. It's like a Christian telling you that the only reason you disagree with him is that you've never let Jesus into your heart. I don't care one way or the other if you like me or not, but if you disagree with what I say then address it instead of making it personal. I repeated the definition because it boggles my mind that you could infer that I actually hate women from what I've said. You'd be better off saying I hate both men AND women, you'd still be wrong, but it's a hell of a lot closer than saying I just hate women. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

10-02-2006, 11:27 PM	#15
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	I'll stick to my guns on the first quote but I'll concede that the second was the result of too quick a post after first impressions. Again, I think I vaguely mentioned the militancy of the feminist teachers at my highschool and the top of the blog brought back the memories (these were people even shawnee probably wouldn't call feminists, they were really that over the top psychotic and militant). I saw red and ranted so I'll take back those remarks. I see no reason why my opinions are anecdotal, if your closest friend had a terrible experience with an abusive boss would you consider the warnings you learned from it anecdotal enough to dismiss? It's not all first person experiences, but the staff at our hospital was always close so I heard the same types of stories over and over again from all sorts of different people, I have no reason to disbelieve all of them. As for judgemental, I size people up and look at who they are as I listen to what they say, you can't separate what is said from who says it. I can't get alot of information about the speaker over the net so I tend to be extremely skeptical of anything connected with obvious strong bias, and you can't get more biased then a blog like that one. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

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