Second Chances - Page 6

Urbane Guerrilla · 07-17-2007, 02:21 AM

Now you already know I can't believe that one. I want a good world, and that means a world full of democracies. Nothing else need apply, for nothing else is so legitimate.

That calls for shooting the highly motivated sociopaths who would set up sociopathic states.

piercehawkeye45 · 07-17-2007, 05:37 AM

How is Iran not like a democracy UG?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Iran

It isn't like any of the western democracies but it is still a republic with heavy Islamic influences.

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Now you already know I can't believe that one. I want a good world, and that means a world full of democracies. Nothing else need apply, for nothing else is so legitimate.

The communists said the same thing, same concept of intolerance, different perspective.

Too bad the problem is that some non-western cultures do not accept western styles democracies like the west does. Why? Different cultures with different priorities. Bush learned this the hard way and you still have not learned.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-17-2007, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Now you already know I can't believe that one. I want a good world, and that means a world full of democracies. Nothing else need apply, for nothing else is so legitimate.

That calls for shooting the highly motivated sociopaths who would set up sociopathic states.

Quack.

TheMercenary · 07-17-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

First, this is the propaganda I was talking about. The facts are not what I disagree with, I bet everything this guy says is true, it is just he makes it off like Iran is the only one doing it so it is somehow bad.

I believe you have read to much into it. His article makes some assumptions which I believe are generally correct. He kept his focus on Iran, not because there are not other issues to be considered, but because that was the focus of his article.

yesman065 · 07-17-2007, 10:38 AM

Or thats what he wants us to focus on. I think pierce has some very valid points, ane perhaps we are looking too much at Iran and not hard enough at our "allies." Why concentrate our focus on Iran when the Saudis are supplying/killing - whatever - more Americans than Iranians. Maybe they WANT us to look at Iran because of the nuke issue - I dunno. Just throwin it out there.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-17-2007, 10:46 AM

Saudis much good... give heap big oil to infidels.

yesman065 · 07-17-2007, 02:25 PM

Getting back to the beginning of this thread - maybe this is why they bake children and/or do whatever else they want - to control!!

"Once the terrorists stitch up highways and innumerable roads and entire cities with bombs, they have tremendous clout with the locals, because only the bad guys know where all the bombs are, and they can kill at will those who resist, including, if needed, busfuls of people."

Undertoad · 07-17-2007, 03:40 PM

Individual Saudi morons will always stream across the border to blow up the infidels, but on the Iranian border it's the official government doing the streaming, and they won't stop when the infidels leave.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-17-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by yesman065

Getting back to the beginning of this thread - maybe this is why they bake children and/or do whatever else they want - to control!!

"Once the terrorists stitch up highways and innumerable roads and entire cities with bombs, they have tremendous clout with the locals, because only the bad guys know where all the bombs are, and they can kill at will those who resist, including, if needed, busfuls of people."

I know where you got that quote.

yesman065 · 07-17-2007, 10:28 PM

Thanks xoB - I copied it to include in something else, was rushed and closed the window. Oh well it was another VERY GOOD article - IMO.

Urbane Guerrilla · 07-18-2007, 12:14 AM

There never was a fascist duck, Bruce dear. I told you that already.

I like eggs. Even duck eggs.

Urbane Guerrilla · 07-18-2007, 12:15 AM

Pierce, find out how Iran is like an oligarchy, and get back to me.

If you're going to try beating me on political science, you'll need to be better at it than I am.

DanaC · 07-18-2007, 05:31 AM

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If you're going to try beating me on political science, you'll need to be better at it than I am.

That made me laugh out loud.

piercehawkeye45 · 07-18-2007, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Pierce, find out how Iran is like an oligarchy, and get back to me.

UG, find me a democracy or republic that is not like an oligarchy, and get back to me.

TheMercenary · 07-18-2007, 08:53 AM

Iran is far from democratic. They have elements which appear democratic, that does not make the Iranian government democratic.

07-17-2007, 02:21 AM	#76
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Now you already know I can't believe that one. I want a good world, and that means a world full of democracies. Nothing else need apply, for nothing else is so legitimate. That calls for shooting the highly motivated sociopaths who would set up sociopathic states. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

07-17-2007, 10:46 AM	#81
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Saudis much good... give heap big oil to infidels. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-18-2007, 12:14 AM	#86
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	There never was a fascist duck, Bruce dear. I told you that already. I like eggs. Even duck eggs. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

07-18-2007, 12:15 AM	#87
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Pierce, find out how Iran is like an oligarchy, and get back to me. If you're going to try beating me on political science, you'll need to be better at it than I am. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

07-18-2007, 08:53 AM	#90
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Iran is far from democratic. They have elements which appear democratic, that does not make the Iranian government democratic. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

07-17-2007, 10:38 AM	#80
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Or thats what he wants us to focus on. I think pierce has some very valid points, ane perhaps we are looking too much at Iran and not hard enough at our "allies." Why concentrate our focus on Iran when the Saudis are supplying/killing - whatever - more Americans than Iranians. Maybe they WANT us to look at Iran because of the nuke issue - I dunno. Just throwin it out there.

07-17-2007, 02:25 PM	#82
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Getting back to the beginning of this thread - maybe this is why they bake children and/or do whatever else they want - to control!! "Once the terrorists stitch up highways and innumerable roads and entire cities with bombs, they have tremendous clout with the locals, because only the bad guys know where all the bombs are, and they can kill at will those who resist, including, if needed, busfuls of people."

07-17-2007, 03:40 PM	#83
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Individual Saudi morons will always stream across the border to blow up the infidels, but on the Iranian border it's the official government doing the streaming, and they won't stop when the infidels leave.

07-17-2007, 10:28 PM	#85
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Thanks xoB - I copied it to include in something else, was rushed and closed the window. Oh well it was another VERY GOOD article - IMO.

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